Hall of Fame writer Krip Yuson plagiarizes for Rogue Magazine PBA article
So I settle down and read the rest of Rogue Magazine’s sports issue, and something struck me as weird about Alfred ‘Krip’ Yuson’s piece on the Philippine Basketball Association and the legacy of former commissioner Rudy Salud. The words on the page midway through the article sounded familiar; my sensors went on red alert when Yuson started quoting MYPBA forum denizens Jay P. Mercado and Percival Flores. I knew I’d read this article before.
If you follow the PBA closely, you’d know that only one mainstream sportswriter regularly cites the pro league’s amateur historians mentioned above: Rey Joble of GMA New Online. I searched for Joble’s article about the passing of the former commissioner, and true enough, almost the whole middle section of Yuson’s article was lifted directly from it. Whole paragraphs were copied, with very minor changes made.
Some egregious examples:
Joble:
Yuson:
Joble:
Yuson:
Apart from the interviews with Mercado and Flores, the Rogue piece also contained the same sound bites from PBA coaches Yeng Guiao and Tim Cone, and basketball analyst Andy Jao.
I’ve contributed to GMA News Online on a few occasions, and I’m friends with the editorial team, so I knew that Yuson serves as editor-at-large for the site, apart from doing proofreading and editing work for sports stories. I asked Joble if Yuson had asked permission to use his work for the Rogue piece; he said he didn’t.
The intellectual dishonesty is bad enough, but it’s more disappointing that it involves Krip Yuson, one of the country’s most accomplished writers, someone who is already in the Hall of Fame of the Carlos Palanca Memorial Awards for Literature.
Here’s the thing: Rey Joble isn’t the best writer in the world – in fact, there is a certain kind of awkwardness in his work – and he could only dream of churning out words well as Yuson effortlessly does. But even though he has his limitations as a writer, he makes up for it by sheer hard work. Joble is one of the most diligent sports reporters in the industry.
Take that Salud article for example – he interviewed six different people just for that one story, interviews that gave enough color to his piece that it ended up being a worthy tribute to the late commissioner. He does it in an industry where a lot of times, reporters just copy sound bites and story ideas from one another; instead of going along with everybody, he busts his ass to come up with something unique.
So it’s especially galling when someone as talented and accomplished as Yuson steals from Joble and tries to pass off all that work as his own. I have no idea why Yuson was arrogant enough to think that he could pull off this kind of shit; did he really believe that no one was going to know?
On another level, this also irks me because there is already so little good writing about Philippine sports, and opportunities to showcase that kind of writing in a medium such as Rogue, with its sports issue, are so few. Yuson, with the space he was provided, could have served as an example to younger writers and sports fans, by showing his talent, by telling us, Kids, this is how it’s done.
Instead, he chose to turn in a hack job. Fuck that. We deserve so much better.
UPDATE: Check out Krip's reply.
If you follow the PBA closely, you’d know that only one mainstream sportswriter regularly cites the pro league’s amateur historians mentioned above: Rey Joble of GMA New Online. I searched for Joble’s article about the passing of the former commissioner, and true enough, almost the whole middle section of Yuson’s article was lifted directly from it. Whole paragraphs were copied, with very minor changes made.
Some egregious examples:
Joble:
He was regarded as the man responsible for the revival of the popularity of the Philippine Basketball Association. It was under his watch when the pro league agreed to send the first-ever all-pro national men’s basketball team to the Asian Games, and when Asia’s pioneering pro league institutionalized the annual PBA All-Star Game.
Yuson:
He became regarded as the man responsible for the revival of the PBA’s popularity. It was under his watch when the pro league agreed to send the first-ever all-pro national men’s basketball team to the Asian Games, and when Asia’s pioneering pro league institutionalized the annual PBA All-Star Game.
Joble:
From six teams from 1985 to 1989, the PBA made its first move to expand the team membership to eight. Two expansion squads entered the league in 1990 — Pepsi Cola and the RFM Group coached by Guiao.
Yuson:
From having only six teams from 1985 to 1989, under Commissioner Rudy Salud, the PBA made its first move to expand the team membership to eight. Two expansion squads entered the league in 1990 — Pepsi Cola and the RFM Group coached by Guiao.
Apart from the interviews with Mercado and Flores, the Rogue piece also contained the same sound bites from PBA coaches Yeng Guiao and Tim Cone, and basketball analyst Andy Jao.
I’ve contributed to GMA News Online on a few occasions, and I’m friends with the editorial team, so I knew that Yuson serves as editor-at-large for the site, apart from doing proofreading and editing work for sports stories. I asked Joble if Yuson had asked permission to use his work for the Rogue piece; he said he didn’t.
The intellectual dishonesty is bad enough, but it’s more disappointing that it involves Krip Yuson, one of the country’s most accomplished writers, someone who is already in the Hall of Fame of the Carlos Palanca Memorial Awards for Literature.
Here’s the thing: Rey Joble isn’t the best writer in the world – in fact, there is a certain kind of awkwardness in his work – and he could only dream of churning out words well as Yuson effortlessly does. But even though he has his limitations as a writer, he makes up for it by sheer hard work. Joble is one of the most diligent sports reporters in the industry.
Take that Salud article for example – he interviewed six different people just for that one story, interviews that gave enough color to his piece that it ended up being a worthy tribute to the late commissioner. He does it in an industry where a lot of times, reporters just copy sound bites and story ideas from one another; instead of going along with everybody, he busts his ass to come up with something unique.
So it’s especially galling when someone as talented and accomplished as Yuson steals from Joble and tries to pass off all that work as his own. I have no idea why Yuson was arrogant enough to think that he could pull off this kind of shit; did he really believe that no one was going to know?
On another level, this also irks me because there is already so little good writing about Philippine sports, and opportunities to showcase that kind of writing in a medium such as Rogue, with its sports issue, are so few. Yuson, with the space he was provided, could have served as an example to younger writers and sports fans, by showing his talent, by telling us, Kids, this is how it’s done.
Instead, he chose to turn in a hack job. Fuck that. We deserve so much better.
UPDATE: Check out Krip's reply.
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Krip Yuson sent an email regarding my earlier blog entry about his Rogue Magazine piece on former PBA commissioner Rudy Salud, which contained several paragraphs from an article written by Rey Joble for GMA News Online. His letter follows in full.Dear Jae
Krip Yuson sent an email regarding my earlier blog entry about his Rogue Magazine piece on former PBA commissioner Rudy Salud, which contained several paragraphs from an article written by Rey Joble for GMA News Online. His letter follows in full.Dear Jae
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Krip Yuson is a plagiarist AND a jackass
I was ready to just let the whole Krip Yuson plagiarism issue die down; the man said his piece immediately after I’d brought the issue to fore, and writers from other corners of the Internet came up with thoughtful, well-written pieces on the matter. B
I was ready to just let the whole Krip Yuson plagiarism issue die down; the man said his piece immediately after I’d brought the issue to fore, and writers from other corners of the Internet came up with thoughtful, well-written pieces on the matter. B
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At the day job these past few weeks, my colleagues and I have taken to discussing, over lunch, a recent intellectual transgression committed by a certain member of the literati, after said transgression was reported on this blog. My lunchmates, who happen
At the day job these past few weeks, my colleagues and I have taken to discussing, over lunch, a recent intellectual transgression committed by a certain member of the literati, after said transgression was reported on this blog. My lunchmates, who happen
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WOW!!!
Thats sooo embarrassing, but looking at this whole mess on the context of our society, I think this is "small fish" considering that a Supreme Court Justice plagiarized too.
All the same, its truly embarrassing, I wonder if he would return his Hall of Fame trophy/certificate/cash prize?
Thats sooo embarrassing, but looking at this whole mess on the context of our society, I think this is "small fish" considering that a Supreme Court Justice plagiarized too.
All the same, its truly embarrassing, I wonder if he would return his Hall of Fame trophy/certificate/cash prize?
isoli ang bayad! hahaha
in another case, i think 3 years ago, ricky f. lo of philstar used some parts of a wikipedia entry on the band TOTO without citing the source.
and he is the entertainment editor. lol
in another case, i think 3 years ago, ricky f. lo of philstar used some parts of a wikipedia entry on the band TOTO without citing the source.
and he is the entertainment editor. lol
Hmm, it also seems to me that the editors of this Rogue magazine were sleeping on the job. First they mix-up your photos in the contributors section, and now, this.
By the way, good job with the catch, man. Only true basketball addicts, who devour hoops articles all-day, everyday, would have caught that.
By the way, good job with the catch, man. Only true basketball addicts, who devour hoops articles all-day, everyday, would have caught that.
Big balls, taking on someone with the stature of Krip Yuson and exposing his transgression. We need more watchdogs like you, Jaemark.
Dear Jaemark,
I was alerted by Vanni Sequera a couple of hours ago about your blog, which I read occasionally and appreciate whenever I do so. All Vanni said was that I should look at it. I thank him for the alert.
Upon reading it, I acknowledged that you were right. You ARE right. I was danged stupid — no other way of describing my folly. If anything, the only explanation that I can offer — however lame it may appear — rests on two possibly trivial qualifiers.
First off, to recall, I had nearly completed writing a piece on the PBA, as requested by Vanni for Rogue, when I asked him for more time since Rudy Salud had passed away, and I thought his demise should be included in my article. While I was granted more time, I was still pressed for it, which now seems to have led to this injurious development. My fault, still.
Second, I may have mistakenly thought that since I had rewritten Rey Joble's draft for GMANews online, I was at least part-author of it. While that is moot, I should at the very least have credited Rey for the original draft. Again, my fault. I own up to it. I should have asked Vanni to credit Rey's byline as well.
The further "rewrites" you cited were no attempt to paper or layer over the piece that appeared in GMAnews online, but simply efforts by me to make it read even better, or so I thought at the time. Even when I am rewriting or editing for GMANews online, time still applies so much pressure, so that a reread at another time often tells me to reword a phrase or line.
In any case, I am deeply sorry for all this. I apologize to readers. I apologize to Rogue magazine for apparently passing off someone else's work as solely my own. I also apologize to GMAnews online for failing to properly credit first appearance of that "chunk" on Rudy Salud. The deadline pressure simply overwhelmed me, and maybe, or make that SURELY now, I wasn't thinking right.
Most of all, I apologize to Rey Joble for not crediting him with the
original draft. Jaemark, you are very right in saying that Rey is a hard worker, and that he worked hard on the piece, inclusive of the interviews he conducted.
Indeed, it was a terrible failure of judgment on my part, and I initially shuddered at the prospect of losing my friendship with Rey for having done him in, in a way.
As I was writing this, however, mercifully, Rey Joble responded to my attempts to reach him. I will not say here that he's absolved me of my stupidity, but I am glad that he's assured me that he understands what happened, and that there is nothing for him to forgive, and that we remain friends. For which, I thank him most profusely, however I feel even more of a heel for my transgression.
I know I cannot say the same to or of readers, as well as the entities involved — that they should also say there is nothing to forgive. On the contrary, it's a whole lot. I will beat my breast for a good long time, make that a long awful time. I just didn't think right that hour I submitted the piece by e-mail.
Thank you for the shout-out, Jaemark. I know I'll be raked over the coals — for having joined the list of perpetrators of plagiarism. I will just have to bear the blows. Thank you most of all for reminding me of writers' responsibilities, especially in relation to being a good example, as you say, to younger people.
Maybe I've gotten too old and jaded, maybe I'm overworked, maybe deadline pressure got to me, but still, I should have credited my partner Rey Joble for that piece.
Sincerely,
Krip Yuson
7:03pm, April 6, 2011
I was alerted by Vanni Sequera a couple of hours ago about your blog, which I read occasionally and appreciate whenever I do so. All Vanni said was that I should look at it. I thank him for the alert.
Upon reading it, I acknowledged that you were right. You ARE right. I was danged stupid — no other way of describing my folly. If anything, the only explanation that I can offer — however lame it may appear — rests on two possibly trivial qualifiers.
First off, to recall, I had nearly completed writing a piece on the PBA, as requested by Vanni for Rogue, when I asked him for more time since Rudy Salud had passed away, and I thought his demise should be included in my article. While I was granted more time, I was still pressed for it, which now seems to have led to this injurious development. My fault, still.
Second, I may have mistakenly thought that since I had rewritten Rey Joble's draft for GMANews online, I was at least part-author of it. While that is moot, I should at the very least have credited Rey for the original draft. Again, my fault. I own up to it. I should have asked Vanni to credit Rey's byline as well.
The further "rewrites" you cited were no attempt to paper or layer over the piece that appeared in GMAnews online, but simply efforts by me to make it read even better, or so I thought at the time. Even when I am rewriting or editing for GMANews online, time still applies so much pressure, so that a reread at another time often tells me to reword a phrase or line.
In any case, I am deeply sorry for all this. I apologize to readers. I apologize to Rogue magazine for apparently passing off someone else's work as solely my own. I also apologize to GMAnews online for failing to properly credit first appearance of that "chunk" on Rudy Salud. The deadline pressure simply overwhelmed me, and maybe, or make that SURELY now, I wasn't thinking right.
Most of all, I apologize to Rey Joble for not crediting him with the
original draft. Jaemark, you are very right in saying that Rey is a hard worker, and that he worked hard on the piece, inclusive of the interviews he conducted.
Indeed, it was a terrible failure of judgment on my part, and I initially shuddered at the prospect of losing my friendship with Rey for having done him in, in a way.
As I was writing this, however, mercifully, Rey Joble responded to my attempts to reach him. I will not say here that he's absolved me of my stupidity, but I am glad that he's assured me that he understands what happened, and that there is nothing for him to forgive, and that we remain friends. For which, I thank him most profusely, however I feel even more of a heel for my transgression.
I know I cannot say the same to or of readers, as well as the entities involved — that they should also say there is nothing to forgive. On the contrary, it's a whole lot. I will beat my breast for a good long time, make that a long awful time. I just didn't think right that hour I submitted the piece by e-mail.
Thank you for the shout-out, Jaemark. I know I'll be raked over the coals — for having joined the list of perpetrators of plagiarism. I will just have to bear the blows. Thank you most of all for reminding me of writers' responsibilities, especially in relation to being a good example, as you say, to younger people.
Maybe I've gotten too old and jaded, maybe I'm overworked, maybe deadline pressure got to me, but still, I should have credited my partner Rey Joble for that piece.
Sincerely,
Krip Yuson
7:03pm, April 6, 2011
atleast nag apologize na siya. galing ni jaemark napansin yun. hehe
Kahit ano pa, you still did what you did.
Shame.
Paano pa pagkakatiwalaan yung mga susunod mong isusulat?
Shame.
Paano pa pagkakatiwalaan yung mga susunod mong isusulat?
You're one to talk. Eh kung subukan mo munang abutin lahat ng naabot ni Alfred A. Yuson.
It doesn't matter what supposed "heights" you say Krip has achieved. He was lazy. He cheated. Plain and simple. He got his hand caught in the cookie jar and his hand was slapped. And just so you know... about your idol. he's not all that. he did a couple of books for some companies, always late, always complaining, always lazy. i'm actually not surprised that he feel from his high horse and committed plagiarism.
I like the way you think. People like you are the creators of overlords.
Hey Jaemark!
Good catch! haha..
as your good friend Noli says.. susmaryosep! This is pathetic!
Good catch! haha..
as your good friend Noli says.. susmaryosep! This is pathetic!
Mr. Yuson has already apologized for his oversight; thanks mainly to Mr. Tordecilla's piece which brought this episode out in the open.
Never intending to justify Mr. Yuson's wrongdoing, and although everything may now be considered "all's well that ends well", just wanted to ask, don't you (professional) writers belong to some organization/association, or maybe move in the same circles, that may allow calling the attention of an erring colleague in a "less combative", more private manner? Something may be more personal and at the same time professional than an entry entitled "Hall of Fame writer Krip Yuson plagiarizes for Rogue Magazine PBA article"?
I understand Mr. Yuson erred against the reading public; so going public to call his attention seems to be the logical thing to do. But based on Mr. Yuson's response, he seems not to be a person so full of himself. That he'll readily own up to his lapses.
"I have no idea why Yuson was arrogant enough to think that he could pull off this kind of shit; did he really believe that no one was going to know?"
He, and the reading public, now surely know you caught him, Mr. Tordecilla. Credit to you. Keep up the vigilance.
I'm not confusing things here. Mr. Yuson was the one who erred; Mr. Tordecilla was the one who caught him. This is his blog and it was his catch. At the end of the day, he decides how to fry it.
And fry it, he did.
Never intending to justify Mr. Yuson's wrongdoing, and although everything may now be considered "all's well that ends well", just wanted to ask, don't you (professional) writers belong to some organization/association, or maybe move in the same circles, that may allow calling the attention of an erring colleague in a "less combative", more private manner? Something may be more personal and at the same time professional than an entry entitled "Hall of Fame writer Krip Yuson plagiarizes for Rogue Magazine PBA article"?
I understand Mr. Yuson erred against the reading public; so going public to call his attention seems to be the logical thing to do. But based on Mr. Yuson's response, he seems not to be a person so full of himself. That he'll readily own up to his lapses.
"I have no idea why Yuson was arrogant enough to think that he could pull off this kind of shit; did he really believe that no one was going to know?"
He, and the reading public, now surely know you caught him, Mr. Tordecilla. Credit to you. Keep up the vigilance.
I'm not confusing things here. Mr. Yuson was the one who erred; Mr. Tordecilla was the one who caught him. This is his blog and it was his catch. At the end of the day, he decides how to fry it.
And fry it, he did.
good catch mr. FQ...
sir mon, lahat na po ng bagay ngayon idadaan sa twitter or blogs... bad publicity is still a publicity... that's how the world works nowadays... everything through the internet, wala nang human personal conversations... cheers to that (in a sarcastic way)
sir mon, lahat na po ng bagay ngayon idadaan sa twitter or blogs... bad publicity is still a publicity... that's how the world works nowadays... everything through the internet, wala nang human personal conversations... cheers to that (in a sarcastic way)
It actually kind of reminds me of the Cristine Reyes - Sarah Geronimo tiff and other showbiz talk show slugfest; laban na agad, wala nang mga mahinahon na usapan.
Game face agad si Mr. Tordecilla. I'll take it that he's really that passionate about the issue.
Game face agad si Mr. Tordecilla. I'll take it that he's really that passionate about the issue.
"I'll take it that he's really that passionate about the issue."
No shit, Sherlock.
No shit, Sherlock.
Well, there is a union for writers that Mr. Yuson is a part of, and he was even an official of that organization; I'm not part of it. I honestly don't know how active it is, or how many writers are in the organization. I personally don't know anyone who counts himself as a member. You really don't need a license to write, or write professionally; there isn't some sort of guild we're forced to join.
I don't know Mr. Yuson personally, I've never met him, we don't have any kind of personal relationship, although we do have common friends and acquaintances. I should point out though that because of Mr. Yuson's experience and the length of time he's been held in an esteemed position in the literati, he's bound to have lots of common friends with a lot of people.
I'm hesitant to call him a colleague, because really, what he's done throughout his career and what I've done doesn't really compare, does it?
I don't know Mr. Yuson personally, I've never met him, we don't have any kind of personal relationship, although we do have common friends and acquaintances. I should point out though that because of Mr. Yuson's experience and the length of time he's been held in an esteemed position in the literati, he's bound to have lots of common friends with a lot of people.
I'm hesitant to call him a colleague, because really, what he's done throughout his career and what I've done doesn't really compare, does it?
If Ryan Gregorio and Tim Cone can be considered "colleagues", what more you and Mr. Yuson? You've made significant headway yourself.
Hay kahit na nagapologize na e parang jinustify parin naman ni Krip yung ginawa niya (which was absolutely wrong!) I'm sure kung hindi napansin ni Kaemark yun e tatahimik lang siya.
I believe I am the Percival O. Flores mentioned in the blog. I happen to be Jamil Flores' son, a noted writer himself, and from what I recall my father and Krip Yuson are contemporaries. Mai-kwento ko nga ito sa papa ko.
That's sad. But the blog post sounds arrogant, too, with "Fuck that" and "pull off this kind of shit"-shit. haha
You know what's pathetic? Pegging on a renowned writer's name and turning it into a leverage for gaining esteem.
Uhh, excuse me honey. Did they say Deep Throat pegged on Nixon for Watergate? it was a good catch on his part. YOU'RE pathetic for insinuating he just better STFU just because it was some "renowned writer" who messed up, a salutation that has even become questionable of use with the erring writer's name.
meantime, the bball ilustrados (an oxymoron, if there ever was such one) have an axe to grind with the great Krip Yuson. and no, this sorry shit of an apology ain't enough to restore him to his once lofty stature. he did it, he killed his own rep and he dug its grave. good luck on the resurrection. I heard Easter's coming up anyway.
meantime, the bball ilustrados (an oxymoron, if there ever was such one) have an axe to grind with the great Krip Yuson. and no, this sorry shit of an apology ain't enough to restore him to his once lofty stature. he did it, he killed his own rep and he dug its grave. good luck on the resurrection. I heard Easter's coming up anyway.
Jaemark, sinulat ko to na comment dun sa mas recent mo na post, pero ilalagay ko na rin dito. Anyway:
Hindi dahil umamin ka sa nagawa mong mali eh tapos na ang usapan. Kung lahat ng bagay sa ganitong paraan matatapos, saan tayo pupulutin niyan. I don't mean to go off on a tangent, pero -- lahat ba ng kriminal, kapag nagsabi ng sorry eh "off the hook" na rin sa kanilang krimen?
Not to say na nasa ganoong level yung nagawa ni Krip, pero agree ako sa sinabi ng iba: wala na siyang moral authority ngayon, sa kahit anong bagay, lalong-lalo na sa pagsusulat. At sa pagtuturo. Anong klaseng example ang binibigay mo ngayon sa lahat ng tumitingala sa yo? Ang dami naming mga bata at baguhang writer na nagpapakahirap kumita ng pera, pumapasok sa iba't ibang trabaho kahit hindi namin gusto, kasi kailangan namin kumain eh, kailangan namin magbayad ng kuryente. Pero despite all of that, nagsisikap kami na itaas ang antas ng pagsusulat sa pamamagitan ng tapat na pagsusulat. Pero ikaw, na nandiyan na, na hindi na kailangan magbanat masyado ng buto, na marami nang awards, nakaya mong gawin to. Grabe lang.
Hindi benta sa akin yung excuse ni Krip. Kasi yun lang yun -- excuse lang. Sa layo ng narating niya, sa lalim ng experience niya, hindi katanggap-tanggap ang rason na ngarag siya dahil may deadline, o nag-assume siya na "co-author" siya. I mean, COME ON. Kung co-author ka eh di dapat dun palang sa original na article may byline ka na. Dapat sa umpisa pa lang may concrete and explicit understanding kayo ni Rey Joble na kayong dalawa yung sumulat nun.
Isa pa, hindi dahil nag-edit at nag-proofread ka, co-author ka na. Alam mo yan dapat, Krip. Imposibleng hindi mo alam. Ang tagal mo nang nagsusulat. Kahit sino sa atin na nakapagsulat na sa publication, kahit sa highschool, college o nationally distributed magazine o newspaper pa yan, alam yang mga ganyan. Kaya hindi excuse yung assumption mo. The fact that you assumed it is so in the first place speaks of your arrogance, I'm sorry to say.
Sa mga taong nagsasabi bakit pinapalaki na pa to, na hindi to issue, well, bilang isa sa mga konti na lang na natitirang nagsusulat dito sa Pilipinas, para sa akin issue to. Ang hirap maging writer dito sa Pinas, tapos mababababoy pa dahil sa ginawa ni Krip. Tapos to add insult to injury, nakapaka-offhand pa ng apology, parang ginagawa tayong tanga lahat.
Kung ako sa inyo, isipin niyo yung implikasyon ng ginawa niya. Hindi lang to simpleng plagiarism ng sports article. May epekto to unang-una sa education, dahil teacher din siya, pangalawa sa pagtuturo sa mga batang writer, dahil yun ang trabaho niya, pangatlo, sa pagiging writer, dahil tayo bilang manunulat, kahit sa diyaryo ka pa o sa magazine o scriptwriter sa tv o tumutula - may mga responsibilidad tayo, hindi lang sa community ng mga writers pero sa audience natin. Hindi natin dapat "hayaan na" at hindi tayo dapat mag-"move on" dahil lang nag-sorry siya.
Isa pa, paano yung mga institusyon na nagbigay ng mga parangal sa kaniya? Hindi rin ba niya yun ininsulto at dinisrespect? Kahit ba sabihin natin na nagka-award siya dati pa, na yung mga award na yun ay para sa mga original na sinulat niya dati pa, yung pangalan ng institusyon kakabit na sa pangalan niya, sa credentials niya. May responsibilidad din siya dun.
Pati yung Rogue - paano ko pa ngayon paniniwalaan ang credibility ng Rogue Magazine kung nakakalampas yung mga ganitong insidente?
Yun lang naman, kaya naiintindihan ko yung disgust ni Jaemark at ng iba pang commenters. Yun din yung sana maintindihan nung iba dito na nag-iisip bakit ginagawa tong showbiz. Hindi to showbiz. Real life to. Sa real life yung mga gumagawa ng ganitong mali, dapat ginagawang accountable. Hindi por que nag-sorry ay ok na. Yan din yung ginawa nung isang presidente di ba, sa TV pa. O tapos anong nangyari dun.
Kailangan lang kasi lawakan pa natin ng kaunti yung pag-unawa natin sa nangyaring ito. At itaas pa lalo yung standards natin.
Para sa ibang mga writers, lalo na sa mga bata pa, sa tingin ko dapat hindi natin to palampasin, dapat hindi tayo tumahimik lang. Kasi tayo yung magmamana ng iiwanan ng mga nakakatanda eh, at kung may isang Krip Yuson na plagiarizer na mag-iiwan ng ganitong "legacy" at tinanggap na lang natin nang basta-basta, paano na sa future? Paano yung hindi naintindihan na mali to? Tatanda ba tayong lahat at magiging "nation of plagiarizers"?
Hindi dahil umamin ka sa nagawa mong mali eh tapos na ang usapan. Kung lahat ng bagay sa ganitong paraan matatapos, saan tayo pupulutin niyan. I don't mean to go off on a tangent, pero -- lahat ba ng kriminal, kapag nagsabi ng sorry eh "off the hook" na rin sa kanilang krimen?
Not to say na nasa ganoong level yung nagawa ni Krip, pero agree ako sa sinabi ng iba: wala na siyang moral authority ngayon, sa kahit anong bagay, lalong-lalo na sa pagsusulat. At sa pagtuturo. Anong klaseng example ang binibigay mo ngayon sa lahat ng tumitingala sa yo? Ang dami naming mga bata at baguhang writer na nagpapakahirap kumita ng pera, pumapasok sa iba't ibang trabaho kahit hindi namin gusto, kasi kailangan namin kumain eh, kailangan namin magbayad ng kuryente. Pero despite all of that, nagsisikap kami na itaas ang antas ng pagsusulat sa pamamagitan ng tapat na pagsusulat. Pero ikaw, na nandiyan na, na hindi na kailangan magbanat masyado ng buto, na marami nang awards, nakaya mong gawin to. Grabe lang.
Hindi benta sa akin yung excuse ni Krip. Kasi yun lang yun -- excuse lang. Sa layo ng narating niya, sa lalim ng experience niya, hindi katanggap-tanggap ang rason na ngarag siya dahil may deadline, o nag-assume siya na "co-author" siya. I mean, COME ON. Kung co-author ka eh di dapat dun palang sa original na article may byline ka na. Dapat sa umpisa pa lang may concrete and explicit understanding kayo ni Rey Joble na kayong dalawa yung sumulat nun.
Isa pa, hindi dahil nag-edit at nag-proofread ka, co-author ka na. Alam mo yan dapat, Krip. Imposibleng hindi mo alam. Ang tagal mo nang nagsusulat. Kahit sino sa atin na nakapagsulat na sa publication, kahit sa highschool, college o nationally distributed magazine o newspaper pa yan, alam yang mga ganyan. Kaya hindi excuse yung assumption mo. The fact that you assumed it is so in the first place speaks of your arrogance, I'm sorry to say.
Sa mga taong nagsasabi bakit pinapalaki na pa to, na hindi to issue, well, bilang isa sa mga konti na lang na natitirang nagsusulat dito sa Pilipinas, para sa akin issue to. Ang hirap maging writer dito sa Pinas, tapos mababababoy pa dahil sa ginawa ni Krip. Tapos to add insult to injury, nakapaka-offhand pa ng apology, parang ginagawa tayong tanga lahat.
Kung ako sa inyo, isipin niyo yung implikasyon ng ginawa niya. Hindi lang to simpleng plagiarism ng sports article. May epekto to unang-una sa education, dahil teacher din siya, pangalawa sa pagtuturo sa mga batang writer, dahil yun ang trabaho niya, pangatlo, sa pagiging writer, dahil tayo bilang manunulat, kahit sa diyaryo ka pa o sa magazine o scriptwriter sa tv o tumutula - may mga responsibilidad tayo, hindi lang sa community ng mga writers pero sa audience natin. Hindi natin dapat "hayaan na" at hindi tayo dapat mag-"move on" dahil lang nag-sorry siya.
Isa pa, paano yung mga institusyon na nagbigay ng mga parangal sa kaniya? Hindi rin ba niya yun ininsulto at dinisrespect? Kahit ba sabihin natin na nagka-award siya dati pa, na yung mga award na yun ay para sa mga original na sinulat niya dati pa, yung pangalan ng institusyon kakabit na sa pangalan niya, sa credentials niya. May responsibilidad din siya dun.
Pati yung Rogue - paano ko pa ngayon paniniwalaan ang credibility ng Rogue Magazine kung nakakalampas yung mga ganitong insidente?
Yun lang naman, kaya naiintindihan ko yung disgust ni Jaemark at ng iba pang commenters. Yun din yung sana maintindihan nung iba dito na nag-iisip bakit ginagawa tong showbiz. Hindi to showbiz. Real life to. Sa real life yung mga gumagawa ng ganitong mali, dapat ginagawang accountable. Hindi por que nag-sorry ay ok na. Yan din yung ginawa nung isang presidente di ba, sa TV pa. O tapos anong nangyari dun.
Kailangan lang kasi lawakan pa natin ng kaunti yung pag-unawa natin sa nangyaring ito. At itaas pa lalo yung standards natin.
Para sa ibang mga writers, lalo na sa mga bata pa, sa tingin ko dapat hindi natin to palampasin, dapat hindi tayo tumahimik lang. Kasi tayo yung magmamana ng iiwanan ng mga nakakatanda eh, at kung may isang Krip Yuson na plagiarizer na mag-iiwan ng ganitong "legacy" at tinanggap na lang natin nang basta-basta, paano na sa future? Paano yung hindi naintindihan na mali to? Tatanda ba tayong lahat at magiging "nation of plagiarizers"?
Tama si Samuel. Plagiarism is a crime. Nalulungkot man tayo sa sinasapit ng mga gumagawa ng mali hindi naman pwedeng ganun nalang yun . Sayang kahit kasi gaano gaganda ang isang babasaging bagay, pag nabasag, wala na yung dating ganda maski pa maidikit ulit yun.
I hope there is a way to judge Mr. Yuson's error without judgement him as a person, but I guess that depends on what resides in our hearts. Let's keep in mind that mankind is a fallen race. Lahat tayo nagkakamali. Kaso nga lang, may batas laban sa nagawa nya. Oh, the log in the eyes of each one of us!
I hope there is a way to judge Mr. Yuson's error without judgement him as a person, but I guess that depends on what resides in our hearts. Let's keep in mind that mankind is a fallen race. Lahat tayo nagkakamali. Kaso nga lang, may batas laban sa nagawa nya. Oh, the log in the eyes of each one of us!
Tama si Carlos, husgahan na lang natin ang ginawa nyang pagkakamali pero huwag na natin husgahan ang buong pagkatao nya ay dahil hindi na iyon tama, bakit kilala ba natin sya ng husto at ganyan na lang mag-condemn ang mga tao?
I still respect Mr Yuson as a talented writer despite sa nangyaring ito, dahil may napatunayan naman na sya at siguro marami ring nainspired sa kanya not until today (I guess). Mahirap lang, kasi marami tayong expectations. And for admitting his mistakes, sana totoo though I am already bearing a small doubt on his further works but for me hindi na siguro mauulit ni Mr Yuson yun, dahil marami ng nakabantay sa kanya, patay sya kapag inulit nya pa yun.
Dapat lang na itaas ang standards natin pero huwag tayong magjudge ng pagkatao.
Peace to all of you
I still respect Mr Yuson as a talented writer despite sa nangyaring ito, dahil may napatunayan naman na sya at siguro marami ring nainspired sa kanya not until today (I guess). Mahirap lang, kasi marami tayong expectations. And for admitting his mistakes, sana totoo though I am already bearing a small doubt on his further works but for me hindi na siguro mauulit ni Mr Yuson yun, dahil marami ng nakabantay sa kanya, patay sya kapag inulit nya pa yun.
Dapat lang na itaas ang standards natin pero huwag tayong magjudge ng pagkatao.
Peace to all of you
well, he may have erred but i still think the old man deserves some respect here...
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