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On the Fil-Am divide

Posted by Rob Reyes on March 30, 2011 at 14:18 | Comments (17)
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Editor’s note: Yesterday, Lem Satterfield of Boxing Scene published an interesting interview with Bob Arum where the Top Rank promoter talked about the difference between boxing champions Nonito Donaire and Manny Pacquiao, and the difference between Filipino-Americans and Filipinos. I emailed Powerade Tigers center Rob Reyes about his thoughts on the issue, and he wrote back with this thoughtful take on the divide between Filipinos from both sides of the Pacific Ocean.

Where do I start? The Fil-Am discussion is quite a big one, especially for me being a Fil-Am. The word itself bothers me sometimes, mostly because growing up in the States, Americans didn’t refer to me as “American” – I was always the Filipino kid. They called me Filipino once I made it clear that I wasn’t Hispanic, since there were many Hispanics in Florida. I guess some Filipinos feel strongly about the issue. There are a few things I think about when people get into this Fil-Am debate.

Regarding the Arum interview, I think he has some good points, but I don’t know how qualified he is to judge how much Fil-Ams resonate with Filipinos in the Philippines. His example of San Francisco Giants pitcher Tim Linceum wasn’t exactly the best one. Actually, because of Linceum’s Filipino lineage, he got some publicity over here even though baseball isn’t on the average Filipino’s radar. I mean, he came here and they even had a party for him at the embassy. But if a person with Filipino lineage makes the NBA, then let’s see how Filipino fans react.

I’m not too familiar with boxing, outside of watching a Pacquiao fight, so I can’t really say how well Nonito is received. However, I would only assume that his level of fame would have to do with how he portrays himself in the media. Is he appearing on Filipino TV shows? How’s his Tagalog? Those things all matter, I’m sure. Especially with boxers, who are only on TV for fights, like, twice a year. A basketball player in the NBA might log 100 games a year, with maybe half on TV.

That discussion makes me think of the argument that Fil-Ams hurt the PBA. I think it’s more like Fil-Shams hurt the PBA. And while there may be some Fil-Ams who aren’t as quick to embrace the Philippines by learning Tagalog, for the most part the Fil-Ams I know are proud of their Filipino roots. There are a handful of reasons the PBA isn’t what it once was, the least of which is Fil-Ams being in the league.

The best counter-argument is the Azkals craze; I mean, those guys are heroes, and aren’t most of them Fil-foreign?

Sometimes, I can’t figure out what exactly makes a guy a Fil-Am. Take a guy like Alex Compton, for example. He was born in the Philippines, but in no way is considered Filipino at all. Would the same treatment be given to a person of Asian descent who is born here? I’m pretty sure there has been at least one PBA player whose parents are both Chinese. Would that person be Filipino, Fil-Chinese, or Chinese?

What about a guy like Willie Miller, who is half-Filipino and half-black, born and raised in the Philippines? He’s “Filipino,” right? Jay Washington (Jaemark’s favorite), on the other hand, is also half-Filipino and half-black, was also born here, but was raised in the States, so he’s supposedly “Fil-Am.”

Jimmy Alapag, both of his parents are Filipino, but he was born and raised in the States. Is he a Fil-Am? Here’s a hypothetical for you, let’s say Jimmy moved here for high school, then college, before entering the PBA. Then what would he be? Given that both his parents are Filipino, and that hopefully he would speak fluent Tagalog after at least 8 years here, would he still be a Fil-Am? I’d bet he’d be considered a Filipino.

Then there are the rules. I had to jump through hoops to be accepted in the draft. I mean, I had a Philippine passport, and that wasn’t enough. (Ed: Rob is also a nephew of former PBA defensive specialist Eric Reyes.) Luckily, my agent busted his ass to get my paperwork done, and without paying off anyone.

Then we had to get “residency.” I don’t mind the concept that much, but let’s look at the situation from a different perspective. A Fil-Am kid right out of college – meaning he has no money – comes to the Philippines to play in the PBA, and has to spend a year in the Philippines making no money. I was lucky, I have family here and they took care of me, but I couldn’t afford to keep my wife here so she went home. (Ed: Today, Rob’s family still lives in the States, as he tries to make sure that his PBA career is stable before bringing them over; for the past few months, most of his quality time spent with his wife and year-old son has been through Skype.)

I hate to complain about income when so many people in the Philippines make nothing. For players like Kelly Williams and J-Wash, however, missing out on that year of income during residency is huge. And now the D-League is considering forcing them to stay for two years. I hope they do something about the salary, if that were the case. At least say, Ok, Fil-Ams have to play for two years, but they can put their rights in the draft after the first year. Or at least allow them to make more money in the D-League during the second year, or maybe they should allow teams to hire him directly if he’s good enough.

Rob Reyes also shares his thoughts on basketball and other stuff on Twitter (@theREALrob22).
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Tags: Azkals, the Philippine national men's football team, Baseball, Basketball, Boxing, Football, Jay Washington, Kelly Williams, Manny Pacquiao, National Basketball Association, Nonito Donaire, PBA D-League, Philippine Basketball Association, Powerade Tigers / Coca-Cola Tigers, Willie Miller

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#1 Dudubang on 2011-03-30 14:36 (Reply)
Agreed Filshams destroy the league, Filams make it more competitive. But i hope no discrimination though because they are also Filipinos
#2 Flame of Recca Trinidad on 2011-03-30 15:10 (Reply)
Agree with Rob. Even the #1 Fil am Hater Benjie Johnson- Paras is Fil-Australian.
#2.1 Outback Outlaw on 2011-03-30 15:48 (Reply)
Really? Benjie Paras is Fil-Australian?
#2.1.1 Flame of Recca Trinidad on 2011-03-31 05:30 (Reply)
his mom is half australian based in australia.
#2.1.2 Flame of Recca Trinidad on 2011-03-31 05:35 (Reply)
The real story on why he benjie hates Fil ams is because his wife, jackie foster left him for some african-americans, which obviously has a bigger tool than him.

The PBA invasion thing is just a minor issue
#3 Obi Wan Ginobili on 2011-03-30 16:10 (Reply)
Dahil iniiskipan ko yung intro at binabasa ko lang yung gitna, bigla akong napanganga, hinanap ang picture ni jaemark sa google at napaisip...FilAm pala si Jaemark? Buti binasa ko ulit hehe.
#4 Outback Outlaw on 2011-03-30 19:30 (Reply)
Tsk tsk. Sad. Fil Foreigners are discriminated abroad. Here, local fans can't connect with them. Sakit pala maging tisoy.
#5 Rafe on 2011-03-30 23:12 (Reply)
I think Rob did the right thing by taking Bob Arum's statements and then just using them to launch into a far more interesting discussion on his own.

Arum called Donaire "out of his class" or "out of his league" in reference to comparisons with Pacquiao in the same interview, and when it comes to explaining Philippine society to us, Bob Arum is very clearly "out of his class." I understand he travels to the country regularly to attend Pacquiao's birthday parties, drop in on training and probably hangs around for sinister poker games with Chavit Singson. He still doesn't know what he's talking about. The categories of Filipino and Fil-Am he draws are too broad, yet he still manages to misapply them. Academics refer to Nonito has a 1.5-generation immigrant, someone who arrived in the States as a child and retains much of the cultural upbringing he received abroad. Some 1.5s can switch back and forth between national and cultural identities seamlessly. They seemingly have the best of both worlds. Others may feel stuck in limbo between two countries and two selves.

Donaire doesn't meet the criteria for the "typical" Fil-Am, a label that has more to do with perception than any objective reality. He may have picked up a little Cali swagger over the years, but from what I've heard (and taking into account that my Tagalog ear isn't as refined as a native speaker's) he speaks Tagalog basically like he never left the Philippines. Arum wouldn't be able to pick up on any of the nuances in how Donaire speaks or interacts with people. He sees where the two fighters are based and basically draws the distinction from there. It's hard to give credence to much of what he says about boxing, even, since he's always blowing smoke up someone's ass, and there's even less reason to take him seriously when he's wandered so far afield and starts talking about things he doesn't understand.
#6 peejay on 2011-03-31 00:26 (Reply)
Donaire speaks Visayayan dialect also.
#7 bigpedro on 2011-03-31 09:00 (Reply)
I don't think Fil-Ams are destroying the league. I think San Miguel and Air 21 are destroying the league. Hehehe.
#7.1 icecharlz on 2011-03-31 21:56 (Reply)
this is so true!!
#8 workhorse3 on 2011-03-31 13:25 (Reply)
i don't agree with raising the fil-ams' salaries in their 2nd year in the DLeague as it might add fuel to the fire (i.e. division between them and the locals). What I'd like to see is for Fil-Ams just to have a year of "residency" in the amateur league/s. The residency period used to be a year or a conference, right? why the change for a longer period?

and oh, nice one Bigpedro!
#9 Ground control to Major Tom on 2011-03-31 14:22 (Reply)
truly, the entire 2 year residency in the Dleague is just a load of bull, when you look at the PBA right now, the most hardworking guys(not necessarily the most skilled) are the Fil-Fors, Harvey Carey, Kelly Williams, Jimmy Alapag, Asi Taulava(is this guy really 39 years old?), Jay Wash, Chris Ross and so on... whereas the locals are the ones that are usually accused as "wasted talent" or "no passion", I wont name a few of these locals but im pretty sure you guys already know who im hitting here.

To be quite honest, I wouldnt even mind if they allowed tall foreigners(yes, foreigners, guys without a hint of filipino blood in them). Just take a look at the NBA, the Euroleagues and the ABL. hell, take a look at football, people are just as passionate to their favored teams. regardless of the nationality of their players. Our world is changing, the easteners are moving to the west and the westeners are going to the east, this is a good thing since both will be able to share their ideas and cultures to the other, and will be able to expand their view on the world and will create new ideas that would help us make life more convenient.
#9.1 bigpedro on 2011-03-31 14:41 (Reply)
Does his name start with an "M" and end with an "arlou" ?
#9.2 workhorse3 on 2011-03-31 16:21 (Reply)
arwind santos is starting to jack up threes from nowhere instead of going at it in the paint. (JWash too hehe).

You're correct, even Ali Peek is still playing at a high level in his 13th season.

There are "locals" too who play with such passion, to be fair. But not everyone is playing with passion I guess. They're usually the ones complaining. :p
#10 commentor on 2011-04-02 08:05 (Reply)
bottom line is: there is too much discrimination in the PBA. any Filipino, may he/she be full-blooded, part-foreign, or even naturalized have the same rights and privileges as stated by law. hence, the PBA is breaking the law by discriminating on the said "other types" of Filipinos. LAW > PBA rules, not the other way around.

someone should really sue the PBA!!
#11 bigpedro on 2011-04-07 11:40 (Reply)
You know, it's pretty funny that we discriminate against foreigners (or even half-filipinos) coming to work in our country when millions of Filipinos are actually doing the same thing in other countries.

Globalization is here to stay guys. Adapt or become obsolete.

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