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Yes, a lot of players really are better than James Yap. Not just offensively but in terms of overall performance. I'd put Mercado, and Hontiveros as my top 2 guards in terms of overall performance. However, James is the total package if you include looks and maketability. He's almost like another Patrimonio.
I was talking about pure scoring. James Yap is better than the two guys you mentioned in terms of "overall performance". Dondon Hontiveros? Really?
i agree in terms of scoring james yap is in the upper part (batch) in the pba. if it was let say 3-5 years ago. don don hontiveros should be there. hontiveros scoring game is imho is for mba but not made for the pba.
james has more offensive moves, but macmac has this one unstoppable move, but is steadily improving his overall offensive arsenal. i'd have to agree, captain hook is the best scorer in the league today.
speaking of scorer, for me its garry david. mac mac is not the best scorer in the league. dupang lang c mac mac. im sure he can't bring meralco to championship.
well kung championship ang pag-uusapan, Cardona already led his team to a Philippine Cup title. Gary David has not won a championship; he hasn't even played in a Philippine Cup semifinals series.
Yes, Dondon has been around the country playing in venues without airconditioning. And that made him a tough player. You'll probably agree that Dondon has always been an excellent defender throughout his career. James, on the other hand, improved his defense just recently. Let's say the latter part of the last year's Philippine Cup. When Purefoods lost two elimination games to SMB early in that tournament, Andy Jao once commented that the difference between the SMB guards and the Purefoods guards is that the SMB guards can play D.
"Dondon has been around the country playing in venues without airconditioning. And that made him a tough player."
This is stupid. Don Camaso also went around the country playing in venues without air-conditioning.
The thing with Hontiveros and Yap in the PBA *right now* is that one of them is a role player, and the other is a lead guy. Elsewhere in this site I explain how and why. Seriously, read them.
This is stupid. Don Camaso also went around the country playing in venues without air-conditioning.
The thing with Hontiveros and Yap in the PBA *right now* is that one of them is a role player, and the other is a lead guy. Elsewhere in this site I explain how and why. Seriously, read them.
para sakin tama si jae mas mahusay nga si yap overall compare to dondon, kahit sa rp team yap is better than don don, and for me cardona's edge compare to gary david is yung coaching na lang siguro.
i'd have to say that talking about "over all performance", Dondon Hontiveros is arguably at the top of all the 2 guards in this league right now. as the author has said, "one of them is a role player (w/c is DH, i assume) and the other is a lead guy (JY)", with the way things are, its actually true, but one big of a difference that DH has compared with JY is that, DH is much much flexible than James. he could be a role player at times and he could be a lead player at times. he could anchor your team in defense and offense, sometimes even in both. i have nothing against JY, truly a super player, but people mentioned "over all performance" so thats gotta be DH's title.
actually, you can't really anchor your offense around Dondon Hontiveros full-time. that's kind of the point.
hindi pa ba proof sa mga james yap haters na ito na he can lift a team to a championship or him better than Dondon?
Siguro naman natatandaan nyo pa ang recently concluded Fiesta Cup. Although the team has an import, still, James is the anchor of the offense. At higit sa lahat, wala pa si Kerby na kahit ano pang kababawan ang gawin sa court ay masasabi nating vital pa rin sa team.
That alone I believe will make James THE best among, dh, sol, caguioa etc.
BTW Jae, kahit na si macmac ang better scorer among the two, I would still give the best player to James since di mo sya makikitaan ng kayabangan lalo na pag nakakashoot ng pangpanalo.
Siguro naman natatandaan nyo pa ang recently concluded Fiesta Cup. Although the team has an import, still, James is the anchor of the offense. At higit sa lahat, wala pa si Kerby na kahit ano pang kababawan ang gawin sa court ay masasabi nating vital pa rin sa team.
That alone I believe will make James THE best among, dh, sol, caguioa etc.
BTW Jae, kahit na si macmac ang better scorer among the two, I would still give the best player to James since di mo sya makikitaan ng kayabangan lalo na pag nakakashoot ng pangpanalo.
That's exactly the point. dondon's a great 2-way player but he's not a no.1 guy. and his game has dipped a bit - witness his last finals performance vs alaska. he is a better ballhandler, passer and defender than yap and cardona though.
FireQuinito, I'm talking about Dondon's durability compared to other stars. I mean, which among the other stars lasted that long and have travelled as much? Don't tell me Camaso is a star.
Like what akld said, we're not against James Yap. I so love James Yap. But Dondon would have won an MVP too if he were as good-looking as James.
Like what akld said, we're not against James Yap. I so love James Yap. But Dondon would have won an MVP too if he were as good-looking as James.
No, he wouldn't have. Like I said in a previous post about him, he doesn't have the same explosion going to the basket as James, so he isn't anywhere near as big a threat on the offensive end. You can't build a championship team around him, the way you can with Yap, Cardona, even Caguioa. That's why he doesn't have an MVP. He's never been the best player on a championship-winning team.
J.Yap=Overrated
D.Hontiveros (same goes with other SF aound the league)=underrated
Simple?
J.Yap's improved defense in mediocre to most of the guards in the league. And J.Yap btw is a volume shooter, he gets all the screen, all the last second plays, though i have to agree he can create his own shots, just the same, he shoots a lot.
Sorry but that's a fact.
And to that guys who said J.Yap has the looks. Now that's news to me. Being married to Kris A. made him look good. I bet physical appearance is not the only basis when it comes to looks, eyy?!?!
D.Hontiveros (same goes with other SF aound the league)=underrated
Simple?
J.Yap's improved defense in mediocre to most of the guards in the league. And J.Yap btw is a volume shooter, he gets all the screen, all the last second plays, though i have to agree he can create his own shots, just the same, he shoots a lot.
Sorry but that's a fact.
And to that guys who said J.Yap has the looks. Now that's news to me. Being married to Kris A. made him look good. I bet physical appearance is not the only basis when it comes to looks, eyy?!?!
he shoots a lot because he's the franchise player, right?
in simple terms, coz he's the main man, right? mahirap bang intindihin yun, derby ace king? lol
DDH's MVP years already 2 years behind him.
seriously, if i were to build a team and among the shooting guards i'd pick james yap anytime of the day.
total package nga eh.
would you care to have a villain in captain hook?
a role player or 3rd best in a team in ddh?
no way! lol
okay! hate him all you want. for all we care! lol
in simple terms, coz he's the main man, right? mahirap bang intindihin yun, derby ace king? lol
DDH's MVP years already 2 years behind him.
seriously, if i were to build a team and among the shooting guards i'd pick james yap anytime of the day.
total package nga eh.
would you care to have a villain in captain hook?
a role player or 3rd best in a team in ddh?
no way! lol
okay! hate him all you want. for all we care! lol
yeah, exactly, total package. can you win a ballgame just by scoring in bundles?
James is the franchise player for DAl and he gets so many shots. in fact, almost all of the plays of PF back then in RG's time are for James, so he really has the license to shoot. however, DH on the other hand, as you guys call him, a role player. thus, he's under strict rules on when to shoot when not to shoot, but the guy is still able to put up decent numbers.
again guys, what im pointing out is the TOTAL PACKAGE, not who's an MVP or Franchise type of player. James Yap may have the edge in that "explosiveness", but again, you cant win just by scoring.
James is the franchise player for DAl and he gets so many shots. in fact, almost all of the plays of PF back then in RG's time are for James, so he really has the license to shoot. however, DH on the other hand, as you guys call him, a role player. thus, he's under strict rules on when to shoot when not to shoot, but the guy is still able to put up decent numbers.
again guys, what im pointing out is the TOTAL PACKAGE, not who's an MVP or Franchise type of player. James Yap may have the edge in that "explosiveness", but again, you cant win just by scoring.
Regarding the game itself, I think this might be the harbinger of lower scoring, tougher D and a return to late '90s-style PBA when 60-point games were the norm rather than the exception. Not exactly my cup of tea, but heck...it's what the average Pinoy likes to see, tough defense and scientific basketball, and it it's good for the PBA, then so be it.
Besides, we've seen what uptempo teams can do recently, looking at Air21 or any team coached by Bo Perasol...it's a joke. Sayang naman. I grew up in the late '80s when the PBA had only 6-8 teams and scores were sky-high, so pardon my old-school POV on commish Chito Salud's changes.
Still, that's just my two cents. What do you think, Jaemark?
Besides, we've seen what uptempo teams can do recently, looking at Air21 or any team coached by Bo Perasol...it's a joke. Sayang naman. I grew up in the late '80s when the PBA had only 6-8 teams and scores were sky-high, so pardon my old-school POV on commish Chito Salud's changes.
Still, that's just my two cents. What do you think, Jaemark?
That's a very good observation, and it'll be interesting to see how the games play out. In interviews, Commissioner Salud said that his goal for lessening the number of fouls was to create a more free-flowing game, with his metric being the number of fouls called. By his logic, this would "speed up" the game because of fewer stoppages in play.
I don't know if it results, necessarily, in a better product on the court. The NBA tightened up on hand-checking rules because defenses had gotten much more sophisticated, and allowing hand-checks overwhelmingly stacked the odds in favor of the defensive team. Between the complex defensive rotations and the physicality allowed, every game turned into a wrestling match, and they were ugly. Just think about those old Miami-New York Games.
The solution was that to be strict on hand-checking in the perimeter, which helped offensive players. The result was the game opened up, and it's become more aesthetically-pleasing than it was 5, 10 years ago.
I don't know if it results, necessarily, in a better product on the court. The NBA tightened up on hand-checking rules because defenses had gotten much more sophisticated, and allowing hand-checks overwhelmingly stacked the odds in favor of the defensive team. Between the complex defensive rotations and the physicality allowed, every game turned into a wrestling match, and they were ugly. Just think about those old Miami-New York Games.
The solution was that to be strict on hand-checking in the perimeter, which helped offensive players. The result was the game opened up, and it's become more aesthetically-pleasing than it was 5, 10 years ago.
i have to agree with jaemark you cant build a championship team around dh for a very simple reason he's not that explosive offensively. bout overall performance i'll give it to dh with his edge in defense over jy. dh is not the mvp type of player, he's just a solid and reliable role player with great attitude coz never in his entire pba career that he complaind bout playing time or whatsoever. its not the looks or the moves that made jy the total package its his charisma.
"It seems apt that Powerade picked another comedian to be its muse, because with the way Coach Bo Perasol and co. are running the team (Jai Reyes FTW!), they’re looking more and more like they’re in the PBA for comedy instead of basketball."
Weh, 'di nga?
Weh, 'di nga?
hmmm, what im pointing out here is what "over all performance" means. for me, it simply means that you'll never be a liability in both ends of the court. yeah JY is a super explosive player offensively. he could score 40 in any given game but thing is he could not bring his deadliness in terms of the court flipside. DH on the other hand may be an average shooter, off nights there are, but though you take away his shooting prowess, he could still go big time with defense. JY can kill an opposing team by scoring bundles, Dondon can kill an opposing team either by scoring bundles or locking down in defense, pag swerte, both pa. :)
@rodolfo. I think peter june simon is a better player than don don and come to think of it peter simon is just a backup for james yap. the difference between JY and DH is that BMEG has built a team around James Yap while Don Don is just a role player and sometimes a sixth man. Compare the minutes they log each game. Minutes per game determines who's the lead and who's the sidekick
oh, c'mon. pj simon is NOT a better player than dondon. yeah, sure, he can score in bunches. but he's an even worse defender than james. and he is too inconsistent as well. and one more thing, minutes per game does not determine who's the better player. there are a lot of other factors affecting the number of minutes a player gets- coaching style, team depth, etc...
maybe 1-2years ago, i would have said JY is #1, and DH is #1a. but right now, james is clearly the top dog among 2-guards. DH is on the decline now, as evidenced by his sub-par performance during the last fiesta cup finals. heck, even his defense sucked then...
as for choosing a franchise player, JY would really be the better pick. you should always start by getting a good scorer when building a team. because in the end, you would need to outscore the opposing team to win a bball game...
as for choosing a franchise player, JY would really be the better pick. you should always start by getting a good scorer when building a team. because in the end, you would need to outscore the opposing team to win a bball game...
James Yap simply has that explosion others don't have, aside for his cluth plays (take a look at a game against air 21, jaemark's fanboy tribute!), and while James is on the top of his game (despite the Kris Aquino saga- i hate her so kuch, nakakareklate ako..), dondon is kinda in his dawn, another is the fact that he is the best player in PF during their championship years, despite the fact that they are coached by the genius...
after a mediocre performance in the recent fiesta cup finals by don don, i wonder why you guys are still comparing him to james yap.
If to compare with respective eras and good playing years, DDHontiveros is inferior to JYap. But during their prime, Danny Seigle is more explosive than JYap and Danny Ildefonso is more versatile superstar. SMBs title dominance from '99-'01, and the two's MVP, BPC awards during those times are the testaments.
The past seasons the whole league is actually mediocre in great player performances thats why you can hardly pick a marquee player to compare to Jyap or others.
The past seasons the whole league is actually mediocre in great player performances thats why you can hardly pick a marquee player to compare to Jyap or others.
Kaya nga I've witten there that Don is in his dawn na eh.... (rhyme pa...)
If the debate here is who is the best scorer among the top guards in the league, I would probably go for Gary David. Mark Caguioa also is a great scorer, but I think he is starting to lose his touch.
The great thing about David is that he fears no one when he is driving to the hoop. And also, he is now shooting well from the 3 pt area which is a nice thing because he can now do more things efficiently in terms of scoring. The problem is that his team is not winning that much games. Cardona, on the other hand, though can shoot threes and has some good scoring moves, he only has one move which is he's really good at, and which is really hard to stop. his hook shot. A great scorer, if you look at it, since he has this one shot which does not fail him. Yap, is a bit soft in terms of attacking the hoop, but is deadly from the outside. He can do so much in terms of scoring, but he is really soft on the slashing move. If he has David's toughness, he could have been the best player in this generation.
Hontiveros? I dunno.. Sometimes, Bonbon Custodio scores more than him when he was still a rookie teammate of the Cebuano Hotshot. I don't think you can compare him with Yap or Cardona. He was never the star player of San Miguel, and if he was, then they wouldn't need to acquire guys like Jay Washington or Arwind Santos..
The great thing about David is that he fears no one when he is driving to the hoop. And also, he is now shooting well from the 3 pt area which is a nice thing because he can now do more things efficiently in terms of scoring. The problem is that his team is not winning that much games. Cardona, on the other hand, though can shoot threes and has some good scoring moves, he only has one move which is he's really good at, and which is really hard to stop. his hook shot. A great scorer, if you look at it, since he has this one shot which does not fail him. Yap, is a bit soft in terms of attacking the hoop, but is deadly from the outside. He can do so much in terms of scoring, but he is really soft on the slashing move. If he has David's toughness, he could have been the best player in this generation.
Hontiveros? I dunno.. Sometimes, Bonbon Custodio scores more than him when he was still a rookie teammate of the Cebuano Hotshot. I don't think you can compare him with Yap or Cardona. He was never the star player of San Miguel, and if he was, then they wouldn't need to acquire guys like Jay Washington or Arwind Santos..
Ok, this thread has been hijacked by the Yap vs. Hontiveros "debate". Going back to the Meralco- Ginebra game- where's the love for Nelbert Omolon's monstrous 14 pt, 13 rebound game? Outstanding job Nelbert!
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