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Is Alaska import Diamon Simpson over the height limit?

Posted by Jaemark Tordecilla on June 11, 2010 at 16:10 | Comments (27)
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Last night, an agent who reps several PBA imports had a series of tweets about another reinforcement campaigning in the Fiesta Conference. This import, she said, was definitely 6’8”, a couple of inches taller than the 6’6” height limit for foreigners in the tournament.

(Note: I’m not linking her tweets or mentioning her name because her profile is set to private.)

A media personality then replied that there were no other representatives from the other teams when the guy was measured. After another back-and-forth, it became apparent that the player they were talking about was Alaska’s Diamon Simpson.

Now, imports cheating about heights in the PBA is nothing new; Rafe Bartholomew wrote about the practice a couple of years ago on Slate:

Alaska’s current import, Rosell Ellis, has displayed a miraculous ability to shrink and grow over his five PBA seasons. In 2001, the league capped height at 6 feet 4 inches, and Ellis measured a shade over 6 feet 2 and a half. This season, with a 6-foot-6-inches height limit, he came in at almost 6 feet 5 inches. It's safe to say that Ellis, 32, didn't have a growth spurt. He told me that before his measurement in 2001, a coach advised him to make himself as short as possible so he could play in tournaments with even lower height limits. Ellis recalled the PBA’s knee-pushing henchmen doing their darnedest to straighten him out, but he locked his joints and pushed his head down toward the base of his neck. Behold, the amazing, adjustable-height basketball player!

Back then, pretty much every team was cheating when it came to import heights, but the PBA has since modified its method for measuring an import, now requiring the player to lie down for a more accurate measurement. Simpson was measured at 6’5 15/16” by the PBA.

Also, unlike in years past, actual measurements are more readily available for those who know the right resources. Simpson, a borderline NBA prospect after coming out of college in 2009, was measured at 6’7.5” barefoot at a pre-draft camp last year – a full inch and a half over the PBA limit!

(As a comparison, Derby Ace’s original import this conference, Lorrenzo Wade, was measured to be 6’5.5” by the NBA.)

It remains to be seen if this will become a full-blown issue, considering that Simpson has been an absolute beast for the Aces this conference, carrying them out of the stupor of a post-championship loss, and acting as the stabilizing force on a team that traded away its best local player. Then again, the PBA did give its stamp of approval to Simpson’s stint, so perhaps the buck has to stop with them.

The case is especially curious because of the involvement of the Alaska franchise. As Rafe discussed on Pacific Rims (as well as on this blog post), the team makes a lot of bones about following league rules, especially on maximum salaries, to the letter, with team officials led by owner Fred Uytengsu using it as a motivational tool for Alaska players.

But to a jaded PBA fan, this is just another case where the league’s rules fall by the wayside, just like salary cap violations, Fil-Shams, lopsided trades, collusion, and a million other things. It bothers me, but I don’t think too many people in the league lose sleep over these things anymore.

UPDATE: The always-awesome Fidel Mangonon tweets that Ginebra assistant coach Allan Caidic was actually present during Simpson’s measurement. So if the PBA measurement is accurate, does that mean that Simpson shrank?
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#1 Rafe on 2010-06-11 19:22 (Reply)
Someone might want to double check with Fidel Mangonon if the PBA is still using the laying down measurement technique. Perry Martinez instituted the system during his stint as technical director, and whoever replaced him may have changed the measurement standard back to standing or something completely different (although I'm not sure how many different options there are --- laying on one's side?). Also, Commissioner Barrios is known for preferring the PBA's old school ways; I don't know if this extends to the method the league uses to measure imports.

The real question here is are other teams complaining? The league doesn't care if some agent is miffed that Diamon Simpson is outplaying Sammy Monroe or Reggie Larry. If the teams start griping, they can request and eventually force a second measurement. I'd be surprised if that happened, however, since the eliminations are nearly over and no one has made a stink yet. Not to mention the league is in a strange place where a handful of teams could care less about winning at all, and another group is bending so many other rules that they'd be crazy to call out Alaska, whose management is typically reserved in its public criticism of other teams' conduct but who could become much louder and more disruptive if they feel unfairly singled out.
#2 Jimbo on 2010-06-11 20:39 (Reply)
I dont think it should be much of a problem ..... since PBA officials themselves gave the stamp of approval for Simpson.

I fully agree with Rafe above ....... the PBA (now) is basically divided into two very clear groups ..... the absolute have's & the absolute have-nots.

Most of the upper-half teams (CROCODILE DANDING & PLAGARIST MVP) win at all costs ..... literally ..... they stuff their line-ups with marquee players - that it's GROSSLY & OBVIOUSLY in CLEAR violation of salary cap rules & good ole' fashion morals.

The lower-half teams meanwhile are content to go through the motions ..... stay afloat until their Management lowers the boom eventually.

The PBA is a microcosm of Philippine society & business ...... SMC & METRO PAC gets all the big juicy contracts (marquee players) covering all major utilities & industry ..... with questionable dealings behind them ..... all the while the government (Barrios et al) nods in silence.

Am I right or am I right.
#3 Katekyo on 2010-06-11 22:30 (Reply)
Dapat hindi height ang titingnan muna nila...
Yung Trade sana.....grabe yung mayayaman na teams, all star line-up pati back-up...Kawawa yung ibang teams..
Parang yung ibang teams pang dagdag lang sa winning record ng mga mayayaman na teams...
#4 train on 2010-06-12 09:46 (Reply)
whats the difference of a 6'6 guy from a 6'8 guy.... inggit lang yang putang inang agent na yan..
#4.1 hudas on 2010-06-15 05:21 (Reply)
e di 2" ang difference which is malaki na para sa my height limit and knowing the sports. height is might ika nga!! bupols.. mag-isip ka nga..
#4.1.1 Mark Jegger Madera on 2010-07-09 02:00 (Reply)
salary cap ang dapat issue dito. hindi height. sa nba simpson listed @ 6' 7". pero usong technik yan sa states get an eye ng mga scouts. but d truth s, 6' 5" lang tlaga si simpson. . .
#5 PALANG on 2010-06-12 09:52 (Reply)
firequinito your GAY!... SUCK MY DICK!...
#6 ako on 2010-06-12 10:27 (Reply)
POTANG IMO MO AGENT! DUN KA KY BOBONG BARRIOS UMANGAL! BAGAY KA DUN PAREHO KAU SIRANG ULO!
#7 alas on 2010-06-12 20:55 (Reply)
A simple test is to see who is taller Sonny Thoss or Simpson. From the various angles that I have seen both players, Sonny is taller. Unless Sonny is now 6'8". he he he
#8 undefined on 2010-06-13 09:41 (Reply)
baka gusto tanggalin c simpson kasi malakas cya...
Baka magchampion ang alaska kaya kinukuwestyon yung height ni simpson.
#9 Outsider on 2010-06-13 14:12 (Reply)
Kung hindi true bakit maraming nag react below the belt? Peace po tayo bros!!
#10 acesfan on 2010-06-14 10:55 (Reply)
you're so tough kasi simpson eh, ang lakas mo kasi, may issue ka tuloy, i love simpson,
#11 rey on 2010-06-14 13:19 (Reply)
haha...firequinito is gay???wow,,we got an issue here huh...haha
#12 ovan on 2010-06-14 14:31 (Reply)
halimaw kasi si simpson sa rebound, 25 rebounds ba naman, first tym pa nya maglaro dito at 22 years old lang, kaya siguro hinahanapan ng butas para mapaalis. mahaba kasi galamay ni simpson at medium built pa ang katawan kaya akala nila matangkad sa ibang import, ehh magkaheight nga lang sila ni jai lewis ehh.
#13 drew on 2010-06-15 21:24 (Reply)
mukhang 7 ft nga simpson eh if u measure him sideways anyway hehe! he really has a long wing span thats why he looks taller than he really is.
#14 KG21 on 2010-06-16 16:17 (Reply)
Ano ba naman Liga tayo meron, sa mga tawag ng refs, nakakalito..sa trades, may dayaan...pati ba naman sa totoong height ng mga imports, nagkakandalokohan na din!!!
#15 jestoni on 2010-06-17 21:34 (Reply)
It's annoying puro San Miguel Coaches nagrereklamo.. etong Uichico at si Gregorio.. Why ngayong lang? Is it because there's a logjam for playoff positioning between the three teams?

Masyado nagmamalinis si Uichico at Gregorio, mas maraming anomalies yung mga SMC teams when it comes to salary cap issues.
#15.1 b321 on 2010-06-20 09:41 (Reply)
Nagrereklamo ba sila sa height ni simpson? Ang bobo mo naman..!
#16 The Derby Ace King on 2010-06-21 12:01 (Reply)
ang purefoods hindi mananalo kung walang tulong ng refs, karamihan ng mga kaduda-dudang last second calls favor palagi sa purefoods.

ang san miguel naman hindi yan mananalo kung hindi manggugulang sa salary cap ng mga malalakas na players na iniimbak nila sa team nila.

ang nakakasuka, kung sinong team ang maanumalya at lantarang bumabaluktot sa rules ng PBA sila pa ang may lakas na magreklamo ng walang basehan. sukatin nila uli kung gusto nila at nang mapahiya sila.
#16.1 Legendary Skyflakes25 on 2010-06-21 13:29 (Reply)
lol mahilig ka sa ampalaya ano? lol
#16.2 rvac on 2010-06-21 13:41 (Reply)
boy, syado yatang dami ani ng ampalaya senyo... na-overdose ka?
#16.2.1 xian on 2010-06-30 23:14 (Reply)
@ rvac and legendary skyflakes: ampalaya?? mag react na lang kyo ng mbuti sa comment nya. d kyo mka react mbuti ano? kc totoo nman sinabi ni THe Derby Ace king. well, gnyan tlga PBA, pera pera nlng...samahan pa ng tuta ng SMC na si barrios..

just react well sa mga opinions ng iba... kc mas nagmumukha ka pang overdose kesa sa kanya...hihi
#17 xian on 2010-06-30 23:07 (Reply)
bobo? hindi mo pa pala alam??? oh yes. nagreklamo sila. kahit basahin mo pa sa teampilipinas.com. salita salita ka ng bobo eh d mo naman alam ang totoo.. so who is the stupid huh?? think well...=)
#18 bartsimpson on 2010-08-06 16:16 (Reply)
baka sabihin na naman ng san miguel over the age limit din si simpson. baka 40yrs old na. or overweight 500 lbs siguro. wahaha. gagawa talaga ng paraan ang smc para makaporma lahat ng team nila na walang binatbat. fyi din. biased parati sa smc teams si quinito pag commentator siya. maka danding kasi eh. at yun ang totoo. wag ng magreklamo.
#18.1 leechaolan on 2010-08-11 15:11 (Reply)
ulul dami mong alam bart simpson bumalik kana sa cartoon show mo bugok. derby ace king kumain ka nalang ng derby ace feeds mukha ka cguroing nakakasuka.. dami mong alam.. SMB rules...
#19 RTA on 2010-08-14 02:32 (Reply)
Hay naku bat ganto ang pinoy pag inggit sa isang team na nagtitiyaga para magchampion sisiraan. mag si move on nga kung natalo na ang mga team. Its unfair sa isang team lalo na sa alaska they worked hard since qtr finals against ginebra. bawi nlng next conf kung di nio matanggap pasyal pasyal muna
#19.1 fearless on 2011-02-25 10:02 (Reply)
tama sana gayahin nila ung alaska at tsaka dapat fair ung mga tradings hindi tulad ng pag-malapit na ang finals tsaka sila nagpapalitan unfair talaga sa mga walang kayang team para makakuha ng trade NA MAGANDA...di na laro ang nangyayari sa PBA perahan na rin ang ginagawa..

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