Thunder from Down Under: Scouting the Smart Gilas Australian opposition
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Smart Gilas planning to join shitty American minor league
After running roughshod over not-too-elite competition in Australia and getting their asses handed to them by excellent professional teams in Serbia, Smart Gilas took its act to the United States to play several minor league teams from the American Basket
After running roughshod over not-too-elite competition in Australia and getting their asses handed to them by excellent professional teams in Serbia, Smart Gilas took its act to the United States to play several minor league teams from the American Basket
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Yup, the teams they played weren't really that good but one good thing is that they got to experience playing australian teams which play very different from other Asian teams (more european-like). They will face a much tougher test in Serbia. Good to note though that they won without Casio playing at all and without an import.
As for the sports facilities, yes i heard it was amazing and something we can only dream of having. I guess our funds go to other places.. or other pockets perhaps. But we have bigger issues to fix in our countries before we can even think of building sports institutes like the one Australia has. Makes us realize how come they can compete with the best of the world in the olympics... because of their great training programs which are aided with their world class facility.
As for the sports facilities, yes i heard it was amazing and something we can only dream of having. I guess our funds go to other places.. or other pockets perhaps. But we have bigger issues to fix in our countries before we can even think of building sports institutes like the one Australia has. Makes us realize how come they can compete with the best of the world in the olympics... because of their great training programs which are aided with their world class facility.
you need a pure pinoy player bakit di magsanip ng puwersa nag pba at sbp get din kayo ng nga pba player kahit apat lang like eman and jr reyes at yap at reaves or norwood or ryan reyes willaims mamili kayo at tignan nyo mag experement kayo at para makuha nyo ang blend at chemistry ng nag player..........
slaugter 7'0
eman 6'10
aguilar 6'9
chui 6'10
fajardo 6'9
jr reyes 6'8
williams 6'7
norwood 6'5
ramos 6'6
lasseter 6'3
yap6'3
tui 5'11
slaugter 7'0
eman 6'10
aguilar 6'9
chui 6'10
fajardo 6'9
jr reyes 6'8
williams 6'7
norwood 6'5
ramos 6'6
lasseter 6'3
yap6'3
tui 5'11
Where is Gian Chiu anyway? I planned to watch him play some games over at Obelin College (near me here in Cleveland, Ohio) but he didn't play for the Yeomen this year. Is he on campus or back in Manila.
Again, for the record.. I am a different David Jones. I never swear at all, darn it. :)
Again, for the record.. I am a different David Jones. I never swear at all, darn it. :)
Ako ay si Dave Jones. That's my name too!
Well it's a common name believe me (David Bowie's real name is David Jones, and of course Davy Jones of the Monkees.)
Anyway I wanted to know if an Australian team has ever played during PBA Fiesta conference?
I remember Andrew Gaze well as I was a Bullets fan since the days of Wes Unseld and Elvin Hayes (I stopped following the Wizards/Bullets when they fired MJ.) Heck I even remember Billy Ray Bates as a Bullet.
Well it's a common name believe me (David Bowie's real name is David Jones, and of course Davy Jones of the Monkees.)
Anyway I wanted to know if an Australian team has ever played during PBA Fiesta conference?
I remember Andrew Gaze well as I was a Bullets fan since the days of Wes Unseld and Elvin Hayes (I stopped following the Wizards/Bullets when they fired MJ.) Heck I even remember Billy Ray Bates as a Bullet.
actually dave, i got confused when he first left his comment, i thought he was you! you both have Filipino wives too, how awesome is that!
i personally don't remember an australian team playing in a regular PBA conference, although for all i know, there might have been a team coming over to play from way back.
i personally don't remember an australian team playing in a regular PBA conference, although for all i know, there might have been a team coming over to play from way back.
wow, oo nga pala no? because China was seeded into the Beijing Olympics already, Iran was the only actual qualifier in 2007.
mas grabe pa pala ang odds para makapasok ang Smart Gilas sa Olympics.
mas grabe pa pala ang odds para makapasok ang Smart Gilas sa Olympics.
that's what i thought too. BUT BUT, how come i've been reading from everywhere like uhh also from rick olivares that there are 2 slots? i need clarification on this. because from what i know we only have one slot nga talaga. But i've been hearing stuff na 2 raw so i dont really know. I'm hoping it's too otherwise... but we'll never really know!
oo, grabe talaga. but knowing mvp, he prefers that we look at the other side of the odds. so even if there's a 10-percent chance lang, he likes that 10-percent. i remember interviewing him once one-on-one and he threatened to end the interview if i started a question with 'do you think it's possible...?' hehehehe.
and yeah, i've been hearing that there's going to be two slots daw. hmmm... traditionally though it's always been one, unless the olympic host country is asian.
and yeah, i've been hearing that there's going to be two slots daw. hmmm... traditionally though it's always been one, unless the olympic host country is asian.
If RP Smart Gilas does not make it in the 2012 London Olympics, do not consider it a failure. There are more Olympics to come ika nga. Besides, what is important are the lessons learned towards achieving this objective and learning from them.
Hi Jaemark,
If i remember correctly, the Philippine Sports Institute was established a few years ago during the time of PSC chairman Butch Ramirez, who was able to establish good ties with the AIS because he frequently goes with the Philippine delegation in the Arafura Games which Australia hosts. Actually, Ramirez patterned the PSI after the AIS. But when the leadership changes in the PSC, the approaches to sports development also change. I haven't heard about the PSI ever since Ramirez was replaced. Actually, what happened to the PSI is a good idea for a story. hehehe. thanks.
If i remember correctly, the Philippine Sports Institute was established a few years ago during the time of PSC chairman Butch Ramirez, who was able to establish good ties with the AIS because he frequently goes with the Philippine delegation in the Arafura Games which Australia hosts. Actually, Ramirez patterned the PSI after the AIS. But when the leadership changes in the PSC, the approaches to sports development also change. I haven't heard about the PSI ever since Ramirez was replaced. Actually, what happened to the PSI is a good idea for a story. hehehe. thanks.
i'll be interested to read up on what happens there as well. i remember ang dami pang press release noon ni butch ramirez about the institute's library and facilities, etc. while reading the stories then, i couldn't help but wonder kung drawing lang ba yun.
hope you can follow up on that story. that promises to be a 'harry' situation, hehehe.
hope you can follow up on that story. that promises to be a 'harry' situation, hehehe.
Dave Jones is retail chain David Jones lol. maybe his wife is Megan Gail
but yeah thanks Quinito for bringing us the real one. this is what we need now in our basketball, the real score that fans need to know and not lots of sugar coating. what a change. can we tell the fans too that the trip to London Olympics will just be dream for us now? please let us stop exciting the fans. we know it will not happen. cheers
but yeah thanks Quinito for bringing us the real one. this is what we need now in our basketball, the real score that fans need to know and not lots of sugar coating. what a change. can we tell the fans too that the trip to London Olympics will just be dream for us now? please let us stop exciting the fans. we know it will not happen. cheers
I dont wish my wife was Megan Gale jomar, I have a maganda Filipina for a wife :) No I dont own the retail store either :)
well written commentary below. These are eye openers. Most of our sports leaders don't care though. :| Too much politics up there. I won't even start :))
nice article jaemark!
for me, with or without a slot in 2012 as long as we have this kinda program I think we will do great in basketball hopefully.. but still I believe.. no matter or how matter what
for me, with or without a slot in 2012 as long as we have this kinda program I think we will do great in basketball hopefully.. but still I believe.. no matter or how matter what
Kurek! Basta ituloy lang ang program at eventually makakamit din natin ang rurok ng tagumpay!
Do you even think for a second Smart Gilas will even have a chance? Are you still dreaming the "IMPOSSIBLE"?
I doubt they can win here in SEA, what a waste of time and money for a Philippine Team that will just be humiliated.
It is already a failure so think of some words of encouragement, they will need it, to cover up their failed (again) attempt.
No chance in hell Smart Gilas will enter 2012 Olympics even if there are 5 slots. And for future tournaments like Asian Games, they'll just be another team, another practice team. Japeth got what he deserve, be a loser with a loser team. I hope Al-Hussaini pulls-out and join the PBA draft. It's like a "barangay team" playing against PBA all-star. What a pathetic team.
I doubt they can win here in SEA, what a waste of time and money for a Philippine Team that will just be humiliated.
It is already a failure so think of some words of encouragement, they will need it, to cover up their failed (again) attempt.
No chance in hell Smart Gilas will enter 2012 Olympics even if there are 5 slots. And for future tournaments like Asian Games, they'll just be another team, another practice team. Japeth got what he deserve, be a loser with a loser team. I hope Al-Hussaini pulls-out and join the PBA draft. It's like a "barangay team" playing against PBA all-star. What a pathetic team.
And you call yourself a Filipino after saying that? Aren't you even ashamed of yourself? This is not about who's more popular and who's better in your eyes, it's about COUNTRY.
And in case you've been living under a rock this past year, SMART GILAS is our NATIONAL TEAM whether you like it or not. They might not have the best players around and they might not be as popular as your favorite players, but they play hard, train harder, and play their guts and hearts out for our country day in day out.
And these are kids you're talking about who are under intense scrutiny everyday and is criticized for every loss inflicted on them. Please think about the immense pressure they have on their young shoulders. Then they get insulted by people like YOU who have no respect whatsoever by what they're trying to achieve (be it impossible or not).
It's high time people stop comparing SMART GILAS with the PBA. They're both worth supporting. Can't we just be happy that we have a good upstart national program and a very good basketball league for our basketball players to improve and earn a living? Is that so much to ask?
Smart Gilas isn't asking for your money, only your respect and support. Please at least give them that much. Mahiya ka sa sarili mo.
And in case you've been living under a rock this past year, SMART GILAS is our NATIONAL TEAM whether you like it or not. They might not have the best players around and they might not be as popular as your favorite players, but they play hard, train harder, and play their guts and hearts out for our country day in day out.
And these are kids you're talking about who are under intense scrutiny everyday and is criticized for every loss inflicted on them. Please think about the immense pressure they have on their young shoulders. Then they get insulted by people like YOU who have no respect whatsoever by what they're trying to achieve (be it impossible or not).
It's high time people stop comparing SMART GILAS with the PBA. They're both worth supporting. Can't we just be happy that we have a good upstart national program and a very good basketball league for our basketball players to improve and earn a living? Is that so much to ask?
Smart Gilas isn't asking for your money, only your respect and support. Please at least give them that much. Mahiya ka sa sarili mo.
It's a long term program. Where players are DEVELOPED. Look at how much Casio, Baracael, Tiu, Aguilar and Slaughter have improved. They are not the best in the land but they CAN be someday. That is what long term development is all about.
Let me put it this way. If in 1992, after having sent the all pro PBA team to the Asian Games, they assembled a team of amateur players to train for the next 5 or 6 years under, say Ron Jacobs? Then towards the end of the program they'd get Fil-Ams to support them.
We'd be saying they should have had a team of Benjie Paras, Ronnie Magsanoc, Alvin Patrimonio, Allan Caidic, Samboy Lim, Alvin Teng, Yves Dignadice, Ato Agustin, Jerry Codinera and the like. Such a team would be extremely dominant (albeit temporary) by early 90s standards.
But, it would've been possible that by around late 1998 or 1999, we would have had a team that had"amateurs" Johnny Abarrientos, Kenneth Duremdes, Vergel Meneses, Jun Limpot, Marlou Aquino, Olsen Racela, Dennis Espino, maybe a rookie Ildefonso or Adducul, Asi Taulava, Danny Seigle, Andy Seigle, Jeffrey Cariaso and probably either Vince Hizon or Noy Castillo (at that time, they were some of the more promising "shooters" of the game)... or maybe a defensive stopper or two. All versed in the international game!
Maybe even EJ Feihl would have developed into a better player under such a program.
Sure we'd have a few duds in the line up along the way but even NCC had the likes of Naning Valenciano and Tonichi Yturri.
I interviewed Ron Jacobs for a college paper in 1993 and I recall he mentioned something like the NCC program having been a blueprint for long term development. If he had continued, the plan was to have the likes of Patrimonio, Paras, Magsanoc, Francisco and the rest join up. As amateurs. Similar to the line-up Joe Lipa had in 86.
So, maybe Gilas doesn't have the best players NOW. But someday, they might. It's time we thought long term anyway.
Let's face it. The PBA has BY FAR the best talent but not the most SUITABLE style. This current program will enable us to have the BEST TALENT with THE MOST SUITABLE GAME in the future.
Let me put it this way. If in 1992, after having sent the all pro PBA team to the Asian Games, they assembled a team of amateur players to train for the next 5 or 6 years under, say Ron Jacobs? Then towards the end of the program they'd get Fil-Ams to support them.
We'd be saying they should have had a team of Benjie Paras, Ronnie Magsanoc, Alvin Patrimonio, Allan Caidic, Samboy Lim, Alvin Teng, Yves Dignadice, Ato Agustin, Jerry Codinera and the like. Such a team would be extremely dominant (albeit temporary) by early 90s standards.
But, it would've been possible that by around late 1998 or 1999, we would have had a team that had"amateurs" Johnny Abarrientos, Kenneth Duremdes, Vergel Meneses, Jun Limpot, Marlou Aquino, Olsen Racela, Dennis Espino, maybe a rookie Ildefonso or Adducul, Asi Taulava, Danny Seigle, Andy Seigle, Jeffrey Cariaso and probably either Vince Hizon or Noy Castillo (at that time, they were some of the more promising "shooters" of the game)... or maybe a defensive stopper or two. All versed in the international game!
Maybe even EJ Feihl would have developed into a better player under such a program.
Sure we'd have a few duds in the line up along the way but even NCC had the likes of Naning Valenciano and Tonichi Yturri.
I interviewed Ron Jacobs for a college paper in 1993 and I recall he mentioned something like the NCC program having been a blueprint for long term development. If he had continued, the plan was to have the likes of Patrimonio, Paras, Magsanoc, Francisco and the rest join up. As amateurs. Similar to the line-up Joe Lipa had in 86.
So, maybe Gilas doesn't have the best players NOW. But someday, they might. It's time we thought long term anyway.
Let's face it. The PBA has BY FAR the best talent but not the most SUITABLE style. This current program will enable us to have the BEST TALENT with THE MOST SUITABLE GAME in the future.
Take it from Longime National Team Follower.It is a long term program!!!No need more to say.
That's right. We cannot expect overnight success for the RP Smart Gilas Team. Besides, qualifying in the 2012 London Olympics is not the sole basis of the national team's success. There are other tournaments to be considered like the World Championships.
Its not an impossible dream ,it can be done ..fans like you is a disgrace to Philippine Basketball ..PBA is a good league as its provide livelihood to those who play Basketball ,its entertainment at its best but its not the league that it used to be,,perhaps you are still in your diapers when the PBA was the king of primetime TV..Smart Gilas is just duplicating the road to success by NCC..instead of bashing our National Team ,just support it after all the ultimate satisfaction for every player is to play for our flag and country which the PBA just can't give..your favorite PBA team and every team in particular is at the mercy of their CEO'S..they have single goal in their mind to rake in profits..if business climate is not good ,your team will simply cease..as for our National Team ,who ever is the corporate sponsors ,they will continue the fight..we been in the Olympics before although the competition now is ultra competitive , its okay to gave our all out effort than not trying at all ..The PBA can't turn its back just like that ..in one way or another they will support the National team whether you like or not..
Gotcha!!!
Disgrace? The last team that gave honor to Philippine Basketball is the 98 Centennial Team led by Tim Cone, the rest are good exhibition of flops.
Say what you want, that's exactly the response I want from you patriotic dumb. I can dream but stupid are those still dreaming about things they can't get and Gilas team will NEVER EVER win anything. even if this program will be extended to 15 years, this team is nothing but humiliation. And now you are questioning me being a Filipino? That's very comical.
One good example:
Just because I'm a Filipino I will believe Manny Paquiao, saying he will do everything for the country, he will die for the country? Are you people stupid, he wouldn't even want needles on his skin because it weakens him? It's a great recognition for Philippine flag, but enough with the drama, he's got his millions of dollar, all he got to do is prove he's clean, and beat the hell out of Money Maywhether. Don't get me wrong I'm not a Pacman hater. No need for too much (fake) patriotism, that's all I'm saying.
Just because I'm a Filipino I will say Gilas can make it even if everyone knows, they are just bunch of kids out to be pummeled. No need for too much hype. Once a loser, always a loser, that's what Philippine team Gilas is all about.
Prove me wrong, but remember everything I say. Once your so called 'dream' collapse, remember what I told you. Don't try dreaming of Olympics, I told you even if there are 5 slots, they will never make it. What more with just 2? Wake up and don't be a fool.
Of course once they (EVENTUALLY, AS EXPECTED) fail, you'll make excuses, words of encouragements for the losers. Pathetic. All of you are so pathetic to even think this program is heading somewhere good.
Judge me if you want. I love my country, I love the soil I played at when I was young. All the beautiful places here that I've visited thus far. The people (which doesn't include politicians, and religious hypocrites), everything Philippine Island.
But I'm not stupid to believe in things that are just hyped. Dream if you want, it's free anyway, but please try to dream of something near reality. It's for your own good.
Disgrace? The last team that gave honor to Philippine Basketball is the 98 Centennial Team led by Tim Cone, the rest are good exhibition of flops.
Say what you want, that's exactly the response I want from you patriotic dumb. I can dream but stupid are those still dreaming about things they can't get and Gilas team will NEVER EVER win anything. even if this program will be extended to 15 years, this team is nothing but humiliation. And now you are questioning me being a Filipino? That's very comical.
One good example:
Just because I'm a Filipino I will believe Manny Paquiao, saying he will do everything for the country, he will die for the country? Are you people stupid, he wouldn't even want needles on his skin because it weakens him? It's a great recognition for Philippine flag, but enough with the drama, he's got his millions of dollar, all he got to do is prove he's clean, and beat the hell out of Money Maywhether. Don't get me wrong I'm not a Pacman hater. No need for too much (fake) patriotism, that's all I'm saying.
Just because I'm a Filipino I will say Gilas can make it even if everyone knows, they are just bunch of kids out to be pummeled. No need for too much hype. Once a loser, always a loser, that's what Philippine team Gilas is all about.
Prove me wrong, but remember everything I say. Once your so called 'dream' collapse, remember what I told you. Don't try dreaming of Olympics, I told you even if there are 5 slots, they will never make it. What more with just 2? Wake up and don't be a fool.
Of course once they (EVENTUALLY, AS EXPECTED) fail, you'll make excuses, words of encouragements for the losers. Pathetic. All of you are so pathetic to even think this program is heading somewhere good.
Judge me if you want. I love my country, I love the soil I played at when I was young. All the beautiful places here that I've visited thus far. The people (which doesn't include politicians, and religious hypocrites), everything Philippine Island.
But I'm not stupid to believe in things that are just hyped. Dream if you want, it's free anyway, but please try to dream of something near reality. It's for your own good.
I sense bitterness and resentment. You got cut from the Gilas lineup or something?
yeah, that's right. call him bitter and resentful, that'll refute all his points.
@Derby Ace King Ok ok if that's what you think then fine. You have made a valid point. So you believe they will fail. Ok that's your opinion. We should all respect it if you ask me. I'm not gonna call you bitter and resentful like what the other poster said. You have your own opinion of things because you're a realist. Yes you are looking at the bright side of things. Definitely you are absolutely right. You know everything. You are all knowing. You love your country. You are a wonderful patriot! Bravo! What a person you are! Thanks for being "encouraging" and supportive dude. You are one of a kind. ^:)^ Truly one of a kind. And I hope it stays that way ^^
@Jaemark I think what they meant by "long term" was the youth program transitioning to the Senior's program. Meaning all the youth players will eventually play for the men's team eventually. They also have the NBTC (which you have wrote about countless amount of times and even lauding the efforts of Coach E and Alex Compton, who really should be lauded) which serves a a training ground for our players to improve and discover new sills. I'd call that long term and that's definitely not 3 years.
What I think is, the Gilas team of today is strictly a "launch" team. It's just to kick start the program so that we have representation for international competitions (right now) and not bother the PBA anymore by asking them to lend their players and jeopardize their (companies) "investments." Also, in a way it would give the PBA players more time to rest to concentrate on the PBA games which are taxing, physical, and draining. Now they don't have to play tired all the time (because usually international competitions come so soon before and after PBA conferences). Although it would still really be fun to watch James Yap, Helterbrand, Taulava, Raymundo, Miller and company still duking it out and playing the foreigners, I just feel they don't have enough time and energy to prepare for such a gargantuan task when they almost never get to practice together as a team and they're playing against countries whose national members have been together since they were in high school. No matter how good we are, we'll never beat teams who have been together for a longer time and have developed their skills internationally to such an extent that they know every nuance of the international game and each others playing styles.
I hope the SBP's basketball program succeeds and we start developing players who will be better, faster, stronger than any generation of basketball players we've ever had. No matter if Gilas succeeds or not (the Olympics is an impossible task anyway), the only thing that's important is the development of our players and basketball. I want to see the Philippines get into the Olympics or World Basketball Championships even just once in my lifetime.
I also hope the development of our players will open up doors for them to play in other countires like in Europe, USA, and others someday. I don't want them to be relegated to the Philippines and the PBA only. The dream never has to stop with the PBA. I hope they learn to aim higher so they can become better in the long run. I believe if we truly want to become better, we have to play internationally and play with better players all the time.
@Jaemark I think what they meant by "long term" was the youth program transitioning to the Senior's program. Meaning all the youth players will eventually play for the men's team eventually. They also have the NBTC (which you have wrote about countless amount of times and even lauding the efforts of Coach E and Alex Compton, who really should be lauded) which serves a a training ground for our players to improve and discover new sills. I'd call that long term and that's definitely not 3 years.
What I think is, the Gilas team of today is strictly a "launch" team. It's just to kick start the program so that we have representation for international competitions (right now) and not bother the PBA anymore by asking them to lend their players and jeopardize their (companies) "investments." Also, in a way it would give the PBA players more time to rest to concentrate on the PBA games which are taxing, physical, and draining. Now they don't have to play tired all the time (because usually international competitions come so soon before and after PBA conferences). Although it would still really be fun to watch James Yap, Helterbrand, Taulava, Raymundo, Miller and company still duking it out and playing the foreigners, I just feel they don't have enough time and energy to prepare for such a gargantuan task when they almost never get to practice together as a team and they're playing against countries whose national members have been together since they were in high school. No matter how good we are, we'll never beat teams who have been together for a longer time and have developed their skills internationally to such an extent that they know every nuance of the international game and each others playing styles.
I hope the SBP's basketball program succeeds and we start developing players who will be better, faster, stronger than any generation of basketball players we've ever had. No matter if Gilas succeeds or not (the Olympics is an impossible task anyway), the only thing that's important is the development of our players and basketball. I want to see the Philippines get into the Olympics or World Basketball Championships even just once in my lifetime.
I also hope the development of our players will open up doors for them to play in other countires like in Europe, USA, and others someday. I don't want them to be relegated to the Philippines and the PBA only. The dream never has to stop with the PBA. I hope they learn to aim higher so they can become better in the long run. I believe if we truly want to become better, we have to play internationally and play with better players all the time.
well, you are assuming there's a bridge between the senior program (Smart Gilas), which was a brainchild of Noli Eala, and the youth program (bankrolled by Nokia), which was in place prior to Eala becoming SBP executive director.
is there?
is there?
Hi Jae. If I remember correctly, it was Mr. Eric Altamirano himself who said that the youth program(Nokia team) is actually a feeder program for the men's seniors team. I would think that there would be a bridge between the 2 because even if they are being bankrolled by 2 different entities (Smart and Nokia), they are both still SBP programs.
Case in point, here is a link about the SBP's commitment to the youth team as affirmed by Mr. Altamirano: http://teampilipinas.info/2010/01/nokia-rp-u-18-open-tryouts-draw.html
Here's his interview with, who else, Qunito Henson, about their success during last year's U-16 Asian Tourney and talking about the continuity between the juniors and seniors team: http://teampilipinas.info/2009/12/rp-youth-back-in-asian-contention.html
Here's coach Altamirano's direct statement on the matter : “We’re definitely in the right direction,” said the 43-year-old Altamirano who played in six PBA seasons until 1994.”For the first time in about 20 years, there is continuity in our program leading all the way up to the senior men’s level with coach Rajko Toroman. Everything is linked up. Our national training center for the 14-18 age group has branched out to 32 cities nationwide with 110 teams. This is our feeder system for the future.”
What do you think on this matter Sir Jae? Thoughts?
Case in point, here is a link about the SBP's commitment to the youth team as affirmed by Mr. Altamirano: http://teampilipinas.info/2010/01/nokia-rp-u-18-open-tryouts-draw.html
Here's his interview with, who else, Qunito Henson, about their success during last year's U-16 Asian Tourney and talking about the continuity between the juniors and seniors team: http://teampilipinas.info/2009/12/rp-youth-back-in-asian-contention.html
Here's coach Altamirano's direct statement on the matter : “We’re definitely in the right direction,” said the 43-year-old Altamirano who played in six PBA seasons until 1994.”For the first time in about 20 years, there is continuity in our program leading all the way up to the senior men’s level with coach Rajko Toroman. Everything is linked up. Our national training center for the 14-18 age group has branched out to 32 cities nationwide with 110 teams. This is our feeder system for the future.”
What do you think on this matter Sir Jae? Thoughts?
the key here is that while both are SBP programs, they both run pretty much autonomously. does Coach Altamirano envision his players to someday play for the senior's national team? of course. but the goal is really to improve the quality of the talent of the next generation.
that has always been the goal of the youth program
(particularly the NBTC), even before Noli Eala took over the SBP executive director post, and before the Smart Gilas program was established.
i always found the relationship curious, even though both parties have been gracious with each other in public. there was Noli Eala going to the press a few months ago, before the U-16 competition, wondering if a Smart Gilas-type model was needed for the youth program because, he implied, the current one wasn't doing well enough in recruitment.
then a few months ago, Eala announced that Altamirano was joining the Smart Gilas team as an assistant. A couple of weeks after Eala's pronouncement, Altamirano denied interest in the position.
i think that Altamirano's program is bigger than just the formation of a national team, and it gives me a lot of hope as a basketball fan. the original topic was, of course, Smart Gilas, which is a three-year program (actually, the more accurate term is project) to form a team to qualify for the 2012 Olympics.
that has always been the goal of the youth program
(particularly the NBTC), even before Noli Eala took over the SBP executive director post, and before the Smart Gilas program was established.
i always found the relationship curious, even though both parties have been gracious with each other in public. there was Noli Eala going to the press a few months ago, before the U-16 competition, wondering if a Smart Gilas-type model was needed for the youth program because, he implied, the current one wasn't doing well enough in recruitment.
then a few months ago, Eala announced that Altamirano was joining the Smart Gilas team as an assistant. A couple of weeks after Eala's pronouncement, Altamirano denied interest in the position.
i think that Altamirano's program is bigger than just the formation of a national team, and it gives me a lot of hope as a basketball fan. the original topic was, of course, Smart Gilas, which is a three-year program (actually, the more accurate term is project) to form a team to qualify for the 2012 Olympics.
That's the problem with Noli "I'm always right" Eala. He opens his mouth too much and spouts so much arrogance and continually boasts about "his: achievements. That's part of the reason why he has so many detractors and thankfully, he was removed as team manager of Smart Gilas. I'm just sick of his nonsense.
Hmm... so the youth program was already in place way before the inception of Smart Gilas. I applaud Coach Eric for his efforts of developing basketball talent in the Philippines. He has vision that stretches beyond temporary success and focuses on long-term success and sustenance. And by the achievements of of his U-16 team, we can most definitely say that it is the step in the right direction. With the upcoming U-18 competition, I expect only bright and big things for the team.
I too am excited for the development of Philippine basketball. What's important is it starts with the grassroots. If the youth are developed properly then it will only raise the level of competition in the Philippines which will raise the caliber of our national teams of the future.
On a final note, I sure hope that what Coach Eric mentioned in the article was in fact true. Meaning all the players from NTBC and the youth national teams will eventually become the seniors team. By the time they reach the men's team, their teamwork and chemistry would have been fully developed and their knowledge of the international game would be at its optimum level.
Hmm... so the youth program was already in place way before the inception of Smart Gilas. I applaud Coach Eric for his efforts of developing basketball talent in the Philippines. He has vision that stretches beyond temporary success and focuses on long-term success and sustenance. And by the achievements of of his U-16 team, we can most definitely say that it is the step in the right direction. With the upcoming U-18 competition, I expect only bright and big things for the team.
I too am excited for the development of Philippine basketball. What's important is it starts with the grassroots. If the youth are developed properly then it will only raise the level of competition in the Philippines which will raise the caliber of our national teams of the future.
On a final note, I sure hope that what Coach Eric mentioned in the article was in fact true. Meaning all the players from NTBC and the youth national teams will eventually become the seniors team. By the time they reach the men's team, their teamwork and chemistry would have been fully developed and their knowledge of the international game would be at its optimum level.
“What oxygen is to the lungs, such is hope to the meaning of life”
- Emil Brunner
- Emil Brunner
“In all things it is better to hope than to despair”
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
“It is wise to direct your anger towards problems -- not people; to focus your energies on answers -- not excuses.”
- William Arthur Ward
- William Arthur Ward
Kids? my god they are in their 20s na! enough of these comedies. get real, olympics is a wishful thinking.
We do know that the Olympic Dream is just wishful thinking. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. What is important though is you get a good basketball program for your country going, from youth to seniors. I am so fucking sick of people bickering with one another over Smart Gilas and PBA and who's FUCKING BETTER all the DAMN time. For crying out loud these are both truly Filipino inceptions, can't we just be damn happy about that? If PBA teams win, we're happy. And even if you hate Smart Gilas, if they win, hell you'd be sure to cheer for them. At the end of the day, they're all Philippine National Teams. What's important is the name on the front (Philippines) and not the ones on their backs (names of players; people always focusing on popularity all the time. It's so fucking irritating)
Even if Smart Gilas, and PBA teams fail, we still believe. Even if it seems like it is wishful thinking, we will continue to believe. Because if you don't FUCKING believe in your own COUNTRY, how can you call yourself a Filipino? It's not always about being realistic like what Derby Ace King makes it out to be (a fucking damn egotistical realist) . If all of us continue with this cancerous "Crab Mentality," then we sure as FUCKING HELL won't be FUCKING going anywhere not only in basketball, but with our lives. that's the problem with Filipinos: Too impatient, presumptuous, arrogant, expecting. And we ask people why we never progress with anything? My goodness, take a fucking damn look in the mirror.
Even if Smart Gilas, and PBA teams fail, we still believe. Even if it seems like it is wishful thinking, we will continue to believe. Because if you don't FUCKING believe in your own COUNTRY, how can you call yourself a Filipino? It's not always about being realistic like what Derby Ace King makes it out to be (a fucking damn egotistical realist) . If all of us continue with this cancerous "Crab Mentality," then we sure as FUCKING HELL won't be FUCKING going anywhere not only in basketball, but with our lives. that's the problem with Filipinos: Too impatient, presumptuous, arrogant, expecting. And we ask people why we never progress with anything? My goodness, take a fucking damn look in the mirror.
For FUCKING out loud im not going to cheer for them if they win because it will not going to FUCKING happen anyway!
you said FUCKING crab mentality? oh get moving you FUCKING dreamer! enough of this FUCKING SHITS. you dont have any FUCKING idea the hell. i repeat this is all FUCKING of the FUCK with the FUCK and by the FUCK!
all FUCK up oh yeah! yeah boy wassup we're FUCK!
you said FUCKING crab mentality? oh get moving you FUCKING dreamer! enough of this FUCKING SHITS. you dont have any FUCKING idea the hell. i repeat this is all FUCKING of the FUCK with the FUCK and by the FUCK!
all FUCK up oh yeah! yeah boy wassup we're FUCK!
Yeah! You're absolutely right! You are a FUCK! You really are!. Sure don't cheer for your own country. Cheer those middle easterners. Yeah, you do love your country. You're great dude! Genius! I'm a dreamer. At least I dream and hope. You? You're a fucking pessimist!
please stop your boom tararat. if i dont trust our basketball program that are full of shits then anong pakialam mo tanga? kung gusto mo magpakatanga mag isa mo at wag mo kaming pilitin! the FUCKING Boomtararat stupid minds!
Just I thought it was. i was in great wonder how a developed australian team, who's a regular olympian, got almost swept away by a lowly, undersized, inexpericed smart gilas team? now i know why! thanks to you mr. firequinito!
the danger that i see here is that maybe, the national team can get carried away with victories not even worth calling a strong victory. it can be a good moral booster, but it can come to their heads that they'll be invulnerable! to tell them, they maybe mislead!
to our national sports leaders, don't mind if you lose to better, more stable, and strong national teams because by then, you learn to get tough, to get hard lessons, to gain countable experience.
It seems to me now, that the smart gilas team played with a PBL squad, a liga-filipinas team. a team where they can be getaway winner!
this is bullshit man! i see their stint as a mere publicity! that the team is doing well, on the right track, have done its best, but to make excuse in the real competitio, the fiba-asia, that the teams are stronger, heftier, etcetera, etcetera, blah, blah, blah!
get awake guys!
get real as well!
am just concerned for the sport!
the danger that i see here is that maybe, the national team can get carried away with victories not even worth calling a strong victory. it can be a good moral booster, but it can come to their heads that they'll be invulnerable! to tell them, they maybe mislead!
to our national sports leaders, don't mind if you lose to better, more stable, and strong national teams because by then, you learn to get tough, to get hard lessons, to gain countable experience.
It seems to me now, that the smart gilas team played with a PBL squad, a liga-filipinas team. a team where they can be getaway winner!
this is bullshit man! i see their stint as a mere publicity! that the team is doing well, on the right track, have done its best, but to make excuse in the real competitio, the fiba-asia, that the teams are stronger, heftier, etcetera, etcetera, blah, blah, blah!
get awake guys!
get real as well!
am just concerned for the sport!
U are concerned now?!Where were u for the last 25 years?Like so far we were great, and now Smart Gilas will ruine everything! I can't believe all this nonsense.
And what is the discussion about?
Now you are bothered because Smart Gilas has friendly games!You think that they should prepare like you say?! I believe that friendly games are arranged with the teams that are available at certain moment. It would be great to play against Lakers,but sorry,they are not available.Maybe you can arrange one!
As far as we all know,there were friendly games against PBA teams,and they won a lot of them.And there were official tournaments,e.g.Dubai,where they got bronze,and played with professional teams with great number of imports.As far as I can remember,for decades,there were no medals even on the tournaments like this.
And what is all negativity for?And why everyone wants to make Smart team life miserable? PBA feels threaten with them,so their refs were making shameful
decisions when playing against PBA.Or the game becomes a street fight like against Burger. What a shame! And,I would like to know what all this criticasters achieved in their life within their jobs.I know that I amdoing my the best I can,but I am far from top of the world.And I admire people who are successful,It's not easy.Specially for us in basketball that we do like, let's face it,it's the sport of tall people,which we're not obviosly,which makes this task more difficult for us.So,for success to happen you have to have a lot of heart together with your skills.
And at the end you need a little support from the people,not arrogance!
And what is the discussion about?
Now you are bothered because Smart Gilas has friendly games!You think that they should prepare like you say?! I believe that friendly games are arranged with the teams that are available at certain moment. It would be great to play against Lakers,but sorry,they are not available.Maybe you can arrange one!
As far as we all know,there were friendly games against PBA teams,and they won a lot of them.And there were official tournaments,e.g.Dubai,where they got bronze,and played with professional teams with great number of imports.As far as I can remember,for decades,there were no medals even on the tournaments like this.
And what is all negativity for?And why everyone wants to make Smart team life miserable? PBA feels threaten with them,so their refs were making shameful
decisions when playing against PBA.Or the game becomes a street fight like against Burger. What a shame! And,I would like to know what all this criticasters achieved in their life within their jobs.I know that I amdoing my the best I can,but I am far from top of the world.And I admire people who are successful,It's not easy.Specially for us in basketball that we do like, let's face it,it's the sport of tall people,which we're not obviosly,which makes this task more difficult for us.So,for success to happen you have to have a lot of heart together with your skills.
And at the end you need a little support from the people,not arrogance!
Don't expect overnight success for the RP Smart Gilas Team. Our national team has a long way to go to be even just competitive in Asian meets especially against China and Iran.
With regards to Australia, the Oceania has always been given two slots whether in the Olympics despite the fact that there are less countries in that zone as compared to Asia. Do you want to know the reason why?
Bob Elphinston,the FIBA President happens to be an Australian.
Check this from the FIBA website:
"Bob Elphinston
The 64-year old native of Lithgow, Australia, was only the third Australian ever to be President of an International Olympic Sports Federation.
Bob Elphinston is recognised as one of the most respected sports administrators in the world, with a long involvement in Basketball since 1961 and international sport since 1991.
Bob was one of the founding directors of the Australian National Basketball League (NBL) and managed the Australian Men's basketball team at the Los Angeles 1984 Olympic Games. He has visited more than 35 countries with teams from Australia. He was the founding President of the Australian Basketball Coaches Association.
In 1991, Bob was appointed General Manager for the Sydney Olympics 2000 Bid Company, reporting directly to Chief Executive Rod McGeoch. His work was ultimately rewarded in 1993 when Sydney won the right to host the 2000 Olympic Games.
As SOCOG's General Manager- Sport, Bob was directly responsible for ensuring the smooth running of the 28 sports at the Olympic Games including the sports competition, the sports schedule, sport services, sport presentation, sport policy and operations, medical services, doping control, IOC relations and protocol, National Olympic Committees services and language services.
During his 10 years of Olympic involvement, Bob has developed a close working relationship with FIBA. In recognition of his significant contribution in bidding for and staging the "best Games ever", the IOC appointed him to the IOC Sports Program Commission and the IOC Evaluation Commission for the selection of the 2008 and 2012 Olympic Games.
In addition, due to his vast experience, he is Sports Consultant to the Organizing Committees of the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games (BOCOG) in Beijing, P.R. of China and the London Olympic Games 2012 (LOCOG) and also consults the International Olympic Committee.
In October 2000, he was awarded the Olympic Order by the President of the IOC and has been honoured in Australia with an Order of Australia in Medal, together with life membership of Basketball Australia and Australia's Sport Administrator of the year."
Is it about time that the FIBA giving more slots to Asia due to the fact that many countries in the zone have improved particulary those coming from the Middle East particularly Iran? Also, China has become more competitive in world meets considering that it has NBA players Yao Ming and Yi Jianlian together with five young and promising seven footers that are could probably play in the NBA in the future.
Besides, Oceania has always been represented by both Australia and New Zealand.Sometimes these two countries only play in a best of nine or best of seven game series to determine who would be first or second in the FIBA-Oceania despite the fact that both countries will be given slots to compete in the Olympics unlike Asia wherein there are more than 20 countries competing for a single slot.
Bob Elphinston,the FIBA President happens to be an Australian.
Check this from the FIBA website:
"Bob Elphinston
The 64-year old native of Lithgow, Australia, was only the third Australian ever to be President of an International Olympic Sports Federation.
Bob Elphinston is recognised as one of the most respected sports administrators in the world, with a long involvement in Basketball since 1961 and international sport since 1991.
Bob was one of the founding directors of the Australian National Basketball League (NBL) and managed the Australian Men's basketball team at the Los Angeles 1984 Olympic Games. He has visited more than 35 countries with teams from Australia. He was the founding President of the Australian Basketball Coaches Association.
In 1991, Bob was appointed General Manager for the Sydney Olympics 2000 Bid Company, reporting directly to Chief Executive Rod McGeoch. His work was ultimately rewarded in 1993 when Sydney won the right to host the 2000 Olympic Games.
As SOCOG's General Manager- Sport, Bob was directly responsible for ensuring the smooth running of the 28 sports at the Olympic Games including the sports competition, the sports schedule, sport services, sport presentation, sport policy and operations, medical services, doping control, IOC relations and protocol, National Olympic Committees services and language services.
During his 10 years of Olympic involvement, Bob has developed a close working relationship with FIBA. In recognition of his significant contribution in bidding for and staging the "best Games ever", the IOC appointed him to the IOC Sports Program Commission and the IOC Evaluation Commission for the selection of the 2008 and 2012 Olympic Games.
In addition, due to his vast experience, he is Sports Consultant to the Organizing Committees of the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games (BOCOG) in Beijing, P.R. of China and the London Olympic Games 2012 (LOCOG) and also consults the International Olympic Committee.
In October 2000, he was awarded the Olympic Order by the President of the IOC and has been honoured in Australia with an Order of Australia in Medal, together with life membership of Basketball Australia and Australia's Sport Administrator of the year."
Is it about time that the FIBA giving more slots to Asia due to the fact that many countries in the zone have improved particulary those coming from the Middle East particularly Iran? Also, China has become more competitive in world meets considering that it has NBA players Yao Ming and Yi Jianlian together with five young and promising seven footers that are could probably play in the NBA in the future.
Besides, Oceania has always been represented by both Australia and New Zealand.Sometimes these two countries only play in a best of nine or best of seven game series to determine who would be first or second in the FIBA-Oceania despite the fact that both countries will be given slots to compete in the Olympics unlike Asia wherein there are more than 20 countries competing for a single slot.
Sindy Cahill is incorrect when she says Oceania has always had two spots in the Olympics. In 2008 in the mens comp only Australia from Oceania played. In the womens both Australia and New Zealand played. The Australian women made it automatically by being the World Champs and New Zealand won as top qualifier from Oceania. It is true both New Zealand and Australia played in the 2000 and 2004 competitions but in 2000 Australia made it as hosts the same as all host nations get to play (Sydney the venue for 200 games) and New Zealand made it as top Oceania qualifier. In fact the 2000 games was the first one the NZ Men and Women both player in. Prior to 2000 neither played in the Olympics. (So 2004 fits your conspiracy theory ;) )Link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_at_the_Summer_Olympics#Participating_nations
It is correct that IF 16 teams participate in the 2012 Olympics then there will be 2 Oceania spot as there will be 2 Asian spots. I agree there is a disparity there with more Asian than Oceanic nations.
If there is 16 nations it looks like the break up will be :
1 spot to Britain as hosts, 1 as World Champions from the FIBA world champs, 2 from Africa, Asia, Americas, Europe and Oceania with 4 spots to be decided at a World Olympic Qualifying Tournament. - Link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics
And to my namesake :), I have never heard of any Aussie team being involved with the PBA and as far as I know only 1 Fil-Oz, Mick Pennisi has played PBA.
Finally to all the knockers. The RP team has a long way to go considering they are not even starting with their best players. I didn't realise these players weren't PBA players. But a lot is not just about individual talent but team play. Learning from other nations how to play rather than just the American one on one will go a long way to having the game to eventually get back to the Olympics, Worlds etc.
It is correct that IF 16 teams participate in the 2012 Olympics then there will be 2 Oceania spot as there will be 2 Asian spots. I agree there is a disparity there with more Asian than Oceanic nations.
If there is 16 nations it looks like the break up will be :
1 spot to Britain as hosts, 1 as World Champions from the FIBA world champs, 2 from Africa, Asia, Americas, Europe and Oceania with 4 spots to be decided at a World Olympic Qualifying Tournament. - Link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics
And to my namesake :), I have never heard of any Aussie team being involved with the PBA and as far as I know only 1 Fil-Oz, Mick Pennisi has played PBA.
Finally to all the knockers. The RP team has a long way to go considering they are not even starting with their best players. I didn't realise these players weren't PBA players. But a lot is not just about individual talent but team play. Learning from other nations how to play rather than just the American one on one will go a long way to having the game to eventually get back to the Olympics, Worlds etc.
Relax lang tayo mga kabayan!!!! Abangan na lang natin ang mga susunod na kabanata!!!!!!Go Gilas!!!
your reply sindy cahill is way out of the topic. its never an issue on who's australian has connection with the IOC, but it is the way we were mislead on how our national team has performed against australian teams.
stick with it man!
simple as that!
stick with it man!
simple as that!
i think what sindy did was just to share an information/ conspiracy theory about how oceana has two slots compared to asia which has only one when the latter has more countries competing in that region which is not really bad. its not "misleading" but more of "supplementing"
come on, anyone who follows FIBA might have thought about this(oceania's 2 slots compared to asia's 1) as well
come on, anyone who follows FIBA might have thought about this(oceania's 2 slots compared to asia's 1) as well
That is what freedom of speech is all about. Wala kang paki kahit anong sabihin ng mga blogger rito.
So basically, everyone wants Smart Gilas to just give up because it's an impossible job?
OK, let's apply that logic to all sports.
You know, our football team isn't doing that well internationally either. Let's give that up. The Miracle Team? Hah, they won't last.
In fact, let's all stop sports altogether. Swimming? Volleyball? Baseball? We're not number one or even in the top 20 of any of these sports. Let's give up!!!
Let's just stop those altogether.
Economically, in the big picture, we are not competitive in any market except call centers. Factories? China has us beat. Let us ALL quit our jobs and become Call Center Agents.
The PBA? It is not the number one league in the world. It should fold up. It's revenue stream is actually on the decline. Adspend for the PBA is lower than before. Maybe the should give up as well?
Doctors! Finding a cure for Cancer, HIV, Diabetes or any number of diseases seems like a waste of time. Filipinos say: Give up!!!!
Let us all just give up!
Sheesh.
That is my main problem with this "give up" attitude. It is what keeps us stuck in our place. Instead of trying to rise above it. Yes, the odds are against us
Let me tell you this, in 1997, people said the Philippine market would never embrace mobile phones. I remember all the naysayers. If guys like Manny Pangilinan chose to believe them, we'd be
And Manny Pacquiao? I followed his career when he was getting the crap beaten out of him by 3K Battery Thailand. People said he was a one dimensional power puncher and would never succeed.
Impossible is a state of mind. If you say you can't do it, then you already shut the door on yourself. As Larry Bird once said, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING. SO JUST DO IT.
People tend to forget that it wasn't that long ago that we were in the Olympics. Or that we were lording it over Asia. If we did it before, why can't we do it again?
That is exactly what is wrong with the country. If it's too hard, we don't try.
That is why every other country is overtaking us. It was once impossible for countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam to surpass us. But the first three are way ahead of us now and Vietnam is close.
Will we succeed? Maybe, maybe not. But if we don't even try, then we've already lost.
We are "resigned to our fate." A stupid, non proactive way to live.
We're too scared of wasting time when we should be more worried about NOT DOING ANYTHING.
If you hate Smart Gilas because of Noli Eala or any player, fine. Hate Smart Gilas. If you think the team sucks ass. Say they SUCK! But don't say things like we as a country shouldn't bother dreaming. That they are wasting our time. Don't hate them for trying.
I don't see why everyone is against anyone trying. In anything. Unless it is a reflection of their own failure and inability to chase their own dreams. Their desire for everyone to fail because they failed.
OK, let's apply that logic to all sports.
You know, our football team isn't doing that well internationally either. Let's give that up. The Miracle Team? Hah, they won't last.
In fact, let's all stop sports altogether. Swimming? Volleyball? Baseball? We're not number one or even in the top 20 of any of these sports. Let's give up!!!
Let's just stop those altogether.
Economically, in the big picture, we are not competitive in any market except call centers. Factories? China has us beat. Let us ALL quit our jobs and become Call Center Agents.
The PBA? It is not the number one league in the world. It should fold up. It's revenue stream is actually on the decline. Adspend for the PBA is lower than before. Maybe the should give up as well?
Doctors! Finding a cure for Cancer, HIV, Diabetes or any number of diseases seems like a waste of time. Filipinos say: Give up!!!!
Let us all just give up!
Sheesh.
That is my main problem with this "give up" attitude. It is what keeps us stuck in our place. Instead of trying to rise above it. Yes, the odds are against us
Let me tell you this, in 1997, people said the Philippine market would never embrace mobile phones. I remember all the naysayers. If guys like Manny Pangilinan chose to believe them, we'd be
And Manny Pacquiao? I followed his career when he was getting the crap beaten out of him by 3K Battery Thailand. People said he was a one dimensional power puncher and would never succeed.
Impossible is a state of mind. If you say you can't do it, then you already shut the door on yourself. As Larry Bird once said, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING. SO JUST DO IT.
People tend to forget that it wasn't that long ago that we were in the Olympics. Or that we were lording it over Asia. If we did it before, why can't we do it again?
That is exactly what is wrong with the country. If it's too hard, we don't try.
That is why every other country is overtaking us. It was once impossible for countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam to surpass us. But the first three are way ahead of us now and Vietnam is close.
Will we succeed? Maybe, maybe not. But if we don't even try, then we've already lost.
We are "resigned to our fate." A stupid, non proactive way to live.
We're too scared of wasting time when we should be more worried about NOT DOING ANYTHING.
If you hate Smart Gilas because of Noli Eala or any player, fine. Hate Smart Gilas. If you think the team sucks ass. Say they SUCK! But don't say things like we as a country shouldn't bother dreaming. That they are wasting our time. Don't hate them for trying.
I don't see why everyone is against anyone trying. In anything. Unless it is a reflection of their own failure and inability to chase their own dreams. Their desire for everyone to fail because they failed.
Failure today does not mean that the RP National Team cannot acquire success in the future. Besides, look at the Middle East Teams. Countries like Jordan and Qatar used to be beaten by an all-amateur RP Team by as much as 30 to 40 points.But look at them now. Qatar won the silver medal in the 2006 Asian Games Men's Basketball behind China while Jordan have improved leaps and bounds as it could not be even beaten by an all-PBA RP Team. There is always hope in the future.
Take a look even at the world basketball.
An all-NBA U.S. Dream was considered unbeatable more than 10 years ago. At present, countries around the world have improved leaps and bounds as well and are successful in beating the U.S. Team like Spain in the 2002 World Basketball Championships,Argentina in the 2004 Olympics and Greece in the 2006 World Basketball Championships.
The U.S. just finished 6th place in the 2002 Worlds, 3rd in the 2004 Olympics and 3rd in the 2006 Worlds. Since then, they started training seriously to again become dominant in world basketball.
Nothing is impossible ika nga. Just take a look at the countries who have beaten the U.S. in the past.
The same is true with the RP Smart Gilas Team in the future.
An all-NBA U.S. Dream was considered unbeatable more than 10 years ago. At present, countries around the world have improved leaps and bounds as well and are successful in beating the U.S. Team like Spain in the 2002 World Basketball Championships,Argentina in the 2004 Olympics and Greece in the 2006 World Basketball Championships.
The U.S. just finished 6th place in the 2002 Worlds, 3rd in the 2004 Olympics and 3rd in the 2006 Worlds. Since then, they started training seriously to again become dominant in world basketball.
Nothing is impossible ika nga. Just take a look at the countries who have beaten the U.S. in the past.
The same is true with the RP Smart Gilas Team in the future.
Ang RP Smart Gilas Team may mga taga-hanga at may mga kritiko.So di talaga lahat ay tiwala sa ating basketball program.So asahan niyo na may mga skeptics ang SBP.
mga kababayan, we're not giving up on Gilas. but lets get real, overwhelming ang support ng BASKETBALL game sa atin from financial to game following. "give up" attitude is nothing when it comes to realization that BASKETBALL game is not best suited for us in terms of Physical talent and the politics around it. for the past 40 years ano bang na achieve natin maliban sa pagbalik-balik sa alala ng panahon nina Caloy Loyzaga noong kokonti pa lang ang marunong maglaro ng basketball? comparing our basketball program to Pacquiao's success is only a simple absurd. Pacquiao did not have huge backing early in his boxing career. he is simply great that no one can deny him from becoming of what he is now regarldess how humbled his beginning was? eh sa basketball how many millions of pesos na ba ang sinayang natin at sino sino na bang mga ma impluwensyang tao ang nagpatakbo nito? and also compare ours to European Powerhouse teams?? we're really joking here mga pare. Spain at Greece at Argentina yon mga pare! gising! no one hates Gilas but what is ridiculous is us fans who doesnt have an idea what is our chance, what's happening and where are we going. we simply say that impossible is nothing. did you ever ask yourselves what will it take the factors to get into the world stage? kung yung mga batang australyano lang di na tayo makalusot lusot ng madalian tapos mangangarap pa kayo at nagagalit nang wala man lang pag-iisip muna basta we beleb daw. we are not even starting. o sige call me a hater or pessimist but that's how i see it. dont get me wrong but the game we love so much the game we spend everything so much but gives very little in return. we cannot even go past beyond South East Asian dominance. yes i love the game but i am glad i already gave the idea that we can really compete in a world stage. no, i will not happen. sorry to say.
No one can blame you if you have that opinion. I just think that you are just basing that from the present facts and realities of Philippine basketball. I do not call you a hater or a pessimist. I just understand your sentiments about the Pinoy's favorite sport.
But one thing is for certain. Nobody can determine what will happen in the future. So anything is possible about the RP Smart Gilas Team. Anything can change with regards to the state of Philippine politics. Also, despite of our lack of physical talent, the FIBA allows countries to use imports. So why worry if the Pinoy lack height and physical talent to win in the sport?
Our country does not aim for the impossible which is world dominance in basketball at present. What the SBP aims for is the growth and improvement for the National Team.And then we can start from there as to how much the SBP can aim for our national team.
If you would want to be labeled as a hater or pessimist, then call me an optimist in my case ;)
But one thing is for certain. Nobody can determine what will happen in the future. So anything is possible about the RP Smart Gilas Team. Anything can change with regards to the state of Philippine politics. Also, despite of our lack of physical talent, the FIBA allows countries to use imports. So why worry if the Pinoy lack height and physical talent to win in the sport?
Our country does not aim for the impossible which is world dominance in basketball at present. What the SBP aims for is the growth and improvement for the National Team.And then we can start from there as to how much the SBP can aim for our national team.
If you would want to be labeled as a hater or pessimist, then call me an optimist in my case ;)
Dude,mission is difficult,but you've already forgot that this young guys,won most of the games recently in Dubai.And,they were playing against the top asian teams who had minimum 3 imports and more.
They are doing their best,I think.
A little respect to other people's effort would be a nice thing.That cost's nothing.
They are doing their best,I think.
A little respect to other people's effort would be a nice thing.That cost's nothing.
anything is possible. but anything is not specific. its a wild wish wihout a specific goal. it doesnt make any big difference because FIBA allows one naturalized player only per team.
one thing for certain dude, we can predict the future base on the facts and realities as you said it. anyhting else is just a mere philosophy.
Gloria will rule in the Philippines in the next term. she owns both congress and supreme court. so the politics will even get worse.
now your getting realistic for mentioning growth and development. so lets forget the Olympics first because it is impossible at present. i repeat, we're not even started yet. our national team can only play against national youth teams at present. so lets us stop bragging for now until we get into the real Men's basketball level.
one thing for certain dude, we can predict the future base on the facts and realities as you said it. anyhting else is just a mere philosophy.
Gloria will rule in the Philippines in the next term. she owns both congress and supreme court. so the politics will even get worse.
now your getting realistic for mentioning growth and development. so lets forget the Olympics first because it is impossible at present. i repeat, we're not even started yet. our national team can only play against national youth teams at present. so lets us stop bragging for now until we get into the real Men's basketball level.
The point of the matter is the SBP can do whatever it wants.MVP, Noli Eala, Rajko Toroman and the RP Smart Gilas team can aim whatever it wants to whether winning the Olympic Gold Medal in basketball, World Basketball Championships or any basketball event there is in this planet. Wala ka nang magaagawa doon whether you like it or not. Sorry ka na lang!!!!!!!!!
siguro para wala na away, tanggalin na lang yung smart gilas, wagcna rin gamitin bilang rp team yung mga pba players...i-reactivate na lang sila carlos loyzaga, lauro mumar, jimmy mariano saka ed ocampo at sila pasalihin sa fiba worlds, tutal nananalo sila dun kaya baka manalo uli sila. malay mo gayahin pa tayo ng ibang bansa, i-reactivate din ng sokor si shin dong pa
What is your problem people?
What PBA fans think? That PBA players are the right
solution?They had their chance,for years! And nothing!
Now,there is different idea.What is the problem?
Anyone asking for your money?No! Let them work and
try to do something.
And,what's wrong with the hope?
What kind of people are you?!
What PBA fans think? That PBA players are the right
solution?They had their chance,for years! And nothing!
Now,there is different idea.What is the problem?
Anyone asking for your money?No! Let them work and
try to do something.
And,what's wrong with the hope?
What kind of people are you?!
jason,
neither PBA or Gilas can solve the problem iho. we simply dont have enough of everything to compete. with a mediocre 5'8 pG, a 5'11 shooting guard who can only shoot on set plays and an undersize below average center the Gilas is not the answer. even a 7 foot recruit will not help because of loyalty and financial issues. just get real iho, basketball is not our game these days. we want to win but obsessions is at its best than we can rather accept the reality. go figure it out with the help of some righ mind.
neither PBA or Gilas can solve the problem iho. we simply dont have enough of everything to compete. with a mediocre 5'8 pG, a 5'11 shooting guard who can only shoot on set plays and an undersize below average center the Gilas is not the answer. even a 7 foot recruit will not help because of loyalty and financial issues. just get real iho, basketball is not our game these days. we want to win but obsessions is at its best than we can rather accept the reality. go figure it out with the help of some righ mind.
My friend,I know very well that basketball is the sport of tall people,and I know we are short.And I think we should be realistic about who we are in this sport.And I'm not the one with the big nose attitude.It's our PBA players who have a diva behaviour,and in Asia they don't exist,not to mention something more. I am strongly against the negativity, when people are trying to do something for our basketball.And I will be happy if our position in Asia becomes better even for one place,concerning everything mentioned(we are short)!
Here is the breakdown of the 12 slots for the Olympics for Men's Basketball.
1 - Host Nation
1 - World Champion
1 - Asia
1 - Africa
1 - Oceania
2 - Americas
2 - Europe
3 - Wildcards
There have been only 12 countries playing in the Olympics for Men's and Women's Basketball.
If the RP Smart Gilas Team does not win the gold medal in the FIBA-Asia, then it can still qualify for the Olympics via the FIBA-Wildcard Tournament,which is a tougher competition.
1 - Host Nation
1 - World Champion
1 - Asia
1 - Africa
1 - Oceania
2 - Americas
2 - Europe
3 - Wildcards
There have been only 12 countries playing in the Olympics for Men's and Women's Basketball.
If the RP Smart Gilas Team does not win the gold medal in the FIBA-Asia, then it can still qualify for the Olympics via the FIBA-Wildcard Tournament,which is a tougher competition.
Tungkol sa objective ng RP Smart Gilas Team to get a slot in the Olympics, ito lang ang masasabi ko," There is no harm in trying!!!!"
we've been trying for many years Gatsby and its already harming us my friend. lets stop this stupidity. GO PHILIPPINES!
The Philippines do not aim for the impossible which is world domination of basketball.SBP does not intend to win against the European teams nor the NBA laden US Team. The Philippines' only objective to be able to participate in the Olympics.Was our country not able to do that in the 50's,60's and 70's?
SBP just wants to do it again. We tried in getting an Olympic slot and we succeeded. Winning the gold medal in the Olympics is stupidity!!!
Getting a slot in Men's Basketball is far from realistic and stupidity.I hope you get the difference.
SBP just wants to do it again. We tried in getting an Olympic slot and we succeeded. Winning the gold medal in the Olympics is stupidity!!!
Getting a slot in Men's Basketball is far from realistic and stupidity.I hope you get the difference.
world domination of basketball is impossible for us. to participate is olympics is impossible for us. get to know the facts how to get there. we were able to do that in the 50's, 60's and 70's. its 2010 and did you notice how the time passes by? its impossible my friend. get someone to explain you so will understand more. GO PHILIPPINES!
Explain that to the SBP and not to the bloggers here.
Parang si Gatsby iyan.Di pa nawawalan ng pag-asa sa pagmamahal ni Daisy.Di pa dapat mawalan ng pag-asa ang Pinas sa kanilang Olympic Dream.Hope is a good thing if not the best of things.
ok, dear SBP palitan nyo yung line-up ng Gilas na naging mga unano sa matatangkad na Serbians. kasi kung hindi iiyak na naman tayo sa bandang huli. Ang Iran at Jordan ay halos kasing tangkad din ng Serbians.
Walang impossible sa mundo.Kung naging impossible ang lahat,eh di sana nasa Old Stone Age pa rin tayo.Get someone also to explain that to you.
hanggang ngayon di mo rin alam na may mga bagay talaga na imposibleng mangyari? kawawa ka naman. Stone Age happens millions of years ago kaya ang daming nangyari magmula noon. e yung gusto nating makapasok sa 2012 Olympics? o sige nga mag isip ka naman please
Try and try until you die ika nga.The SBP should not stop trying.
Pera ni MVP at ng SBP iyan.Wala na tayong paki-alam kong anong gustong gawin ni MVP para sa RP Smart Gilas Team hanggang ito ay legal at walang napapahamak!!!!
pera ni MVP at pera ng Bayan via SBP! pwes dapat mong malaman na dinadala nila ang Pangalan at BAndila ng Pilipinas. kaya kung tanga ka dapat lang na wala kang pakialam! katanda mo na hindi mo pa alam ang mga bagay na dapat pakialaman?
Kaya ng mga Pinoy iyan.Basta Pinoy,kayang kaya!!!
Iyong mga nagsasabing di kaya ng mga Pinoy,ibaon niyo na lang sa limot ang galit niyo.
Kain na lang kayo ng siopao. lol
Iyong mga nagsasabing di kaya ng mga Pinoy,ibaon niyo na lang sa limot ang galit niyo.
Kain na lang kayo ng siopao. lol
The SBP is a private organization. There is no money coming from the government unlike other national sports associations in the Philippines.
yung billions of SMS texts ay galing sa tao kasama na ako doon. patronage kasama din tayo doon and its our National Team. Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas o ayan Pilipinas daw ano pa bang gusto mong patunayan?
That is called consumerism. People are not forced to use cell phones from Smart. You are not forced to use Smart cell phones if you do not support the SBP or the RP Smart Gilas Team in its objective of obtaining a slot in the 2012 London Olympics. You are free to switch to its competitor any time.
I am talking about taxes that the government collect from a percentage of one's income which is automatically deducted even before you receive your salary.
I am talking about taxes that the government collect from a percentage of one's income which is automatically deducted even before you receive your salary.
Sana eh patuloy pa ang mga balita at updates tungkol sa ating national team.
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