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In praise of Ryan Gregorio, and other thoughts on Purefoods vs. San Miguel
Purefoods coasted to a very, very impressive victory over San Miguel last night, winning the last three games in the series comfortably. The team will be making its third Philippine Cup finals appearance in the last five years, an impressive feat by any m
Purefoods coasted to a very, very impressive victory over San Miguel last night, winning the last three games in the series comfortably. The team will be making its third Philippine Cup finals appearance in the last five years, an impressive feat by any m
Weblog: Fire Quinito
Tracked: Feb 22, 09:55
Tracked: Feb 22, 09:55
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I am an SMB Fan also.
and I also do hate Denok.
How I wish Coach Siot would utilize Bonbon more instead of Denok out there wasting their chances.
Tonight they need to focus and win. No more room for errors...
Good Luck!
and I also do hate Denok.
How I wish Coach Siot would utilize Bonbon more instead of Denok out there wasting their chances.
Tonight they need to focus and win. No more room for errors...
Good Luck!
Im a SMB fan also since ramon fernandez era... I dont agree sa mga sinasabi mo.. SMB already have the best roster so stop crying like a baby for losing these ex SMB players.. In fact SMB has too much talent in the roster. If hindi cla natrade wala sana silang career ngayon because SMB cant give them playing time they need.. Espinas is only playing because no choice ang SLR! If tenorio stayed sa SMB sigurado hindi xa nag.improve ganito kabilis dahil his playing time will not be consistent dahil daming pg sa SMB. I think SMB has the best line up in the league so makuntinto ka na sana dahil kawawa naman ang ibang teams kung kukunin na ng lahat ng SMC teams ang lahat na magagaling na players!
- SMB already have the best roster so stop crying like a baby for losing these ex SMB players.
_ Let's see, I wouldn't call a roster that can't even get to the finals "the best" by any stretch of the imagination. I dont think Danding Cojuangco would either.
-If tenorio stayed sa SMB sigurado hindi xa nag.improve ganito kabilis dahil his playing time will not be consistent dahil daming pg sa SMB.
- When they traded Tenorio they only had Racela and Villanueva as their PGs, so unlike now wherein they have 4 PGs, back then they only had 3. So you can't tell me they couldn't have found playing time for Tenorio back then. As for his improvement, even during his rookie year he was already showing signs of becoming a great player, so why would you trade away his potential for an injury-prone Mike Cortez?
- I think SMB has the best line up in the league so makuntinto ka na sana dahil kawawa naman ang ibang teams kung kukunin na ng lahat ng SMC teams ang lahat na magagaling na players!
- Again, if your team doesnt win the championship and doesnt even make it to the finals (worse, if they're embarassed three straight times in the semis), then no, they're not the best. The problem with SMC is exactly that (kukunin na ng lahat ng SMC teams ang lahat na magagaling na players!), they keep stockpiling talent left and right with no regard for team chemistry or other intangibles, like passion or heart.
_ Let's see, I wouldn't call a roster that can't even get to the finals "the best" by any stretch of the imagination. I dont think Danding Cojuangco would either.
-If tenorio stayed sa SMB sigurado hindi xa nag.improve ganito kabilis dahil his playing time will not be consistent dahil daming pg sa SMB.
- When they traded Tenorio they only had Racela and Villanueva as their PGs, so unlike now wherein they have 4 PGs, back then they only had 3. So you can't tell me they couldn't have found playing time for Tenorio back then. As for his improvement, even during his rookie year he was already showing signs of becoming a great player, so why would you trade away his potential for an injury-prone Mike Cortez?
- I think SMB has the best line up in the league so makuntinto ka na sana dahil kawawa naman ang ibang teams kung kukunin na ng lahat ng SMC teams ang lahat na magagaling na players!
- Again, if your team doesnt win the championship and doesnt even make it to the finals (worse, if they're embarassed three straight times in the semis), then no, they're not the best. The problem with SMC is exactly that (kukunin na ng lahat ng SMC teams ang lahat na magagaling na players!), they keep stockpiling talent left and right with no regard for team chemistry or other intangibles, like passion or heart.
They have the best roster in the PBA hands down, but it doesnt mean they will win the championship. I have one simple answer to all of your heartaches.. Change the damn COACH!
Check out Jaemark's newest entry. He enumerates on a point by point basis everything that's wrong with this SMB line-up. Just to belabor one point, he alludes to SMB's lack of athletic swing men and rebounders, then remember who SMB traded away recently, Espinas (athletic combo-forward, double-double threat), and Eman (large center who rebounds and blocks shots). Plus Coach Siot always loves playing this three-guard line-up. Guess who's thriving in a two or three guard set-up in Alaska, yup, LA Tenorio. So, basically when your trades have the net effect of making your team worse instead of better, then that would mean that SMB DOES NOT have the best roster in the PBA.
And yes, I agree with you that Coach Siot probably has to be replaced. Let's face it, he was thoroughly out-coached by Ryan Gregorio in this series. He persisted with that afore-mentioned three-guard lineup even when he was getting killed off the boards, he never found an answer for Purefoods zone defense and to top it all off, his substitution patterns were just plain horrible.
And yes, I agree with you that Coach Siot probably has to be replaced. Let's face it, he was thoroughly out-coached by Ryan Gregorio in this series. He persisted with that afore-mentioned three-guard lineup even when he was getting killed off the boards, he never found an answer for Purefoods zone defense and to top it all off, his substitution patterns were just plain horrible.
you know Coach Siot panicked in the last game when he started Bonbon Custodio. that's never a good sign.
i wouldn't place ALL the blame on him, but i've been harping on how San Miguel doesn't know how to play from behind. that's on the coach.
i wouldn't place ALL the blame on him, but i've been harping on how San Miguel doesn't know how to play from behind. that's on the coach.
I think they traded LA away because they had Jonas in the wings waiting for his turn. If you think about it, Jonas seems to be more of in the mold of an Olsen. LA wasnt an instant big hit in SMB. He struggled at times and yes the potential was there but Jonas potential was also there. So they had to pick one. Now that they're the starting PGs , they're both mentioned in conversation of the top PGs in the PBA. I think you can take comfort in the the fact that trading LA has allowed Jonas to grow. And besides in SMB, LA was more of role player in SMB and never one of the main guys. Jonas seems to be one of the stars now in SMB. Maybe LA wasn't a good fit.
Dont feel bad about Eman. SMB had a chance with him. But he wasnt given a lot of opportunities because of the depth of the SMB team. SMB is like Portland to me. Lots of talent but has too much talent and is quite unfair to some of the guys because guys like Bonbon might be stars on other less talented teams. In short parehas kami sinasabi ni unknown. Haha. Let the other guys go.
SMB management is more like Dallas back in 2004. They just get the most talented players (Dirk. Jamison. Walker, etc) but guys who never complemented each other. Sometimes as an Aces fan, I wonder why the hell cant they do what SMB do? get top 10 players from other teams. haha. Pero iba iba style at mejo gumagana naman para sa kanila.
Dont feel bad about Eman. SMB had a chance with him. But he wasnt given a lot of opportunities because of the depth of the SMB team. SMB is like Portland to me. Lots of talent but has too much talent and is quite unfair to some of the guys because guys like Bonbon might be stars on other less talented teams. In short parehas kami sinasabi ni unknown. Haha. Let the other guys go.
SMB management is more like Dallas back in 2004. They just get the most talented players (Dirk. Jamison. Walker, etc) but guys who never complemented each other. Sometimes as an Aces fan, I wonder why the hell cant they do what SMB do? get top 10 players from other teams. haha. Pero iba iba style at mejo gumagana naman para sa kanila.
I dunno, I don't think Jonas Villanueva is on the same par as LA Tenorio. I dont think magkalapit man lang stats nila. Especially points and assists per game. Granted Villanueva has been a finals MVP, but it seems to me that while Tenorio has been blossoming Jonas seems to be regressing. This was especially evident in the series vs Purefoods. Bagsak lahat ng stats niya across the board. Lalo na Roger Yap seemed to own all of the SMB PGs, Jonas included. Yes, while he maybe would've owned Tenorio as well, Tenorio at least would've given him more of a challenge defensively, and we all know that when you have to concentrate more on your defense, your offense will suffer. Case in point Dondon Hontiveros who was a non-factor the whole series kasi si James Yap ang bantay niya.
And I dont think it was a case of LA and SMB not being good fits. Especially since Tanquincen loves to run a 3-guard offense, which LA would've been perfect for.
As for Eman, I'm not so steamed with SMB losing him per se, as I am with the way they lost him. Parang natutulog ang SMB management sa pancitan with the way they allowed Alaska to just pick him up na wala man lang kapalit. Sayang, sana na-trade na lang siya, para SMB could've gotten something in return.
And I dont think it was a case of LA and SMB not being good fits. Especially since Tanquincen loves to run a 3-guard offense, which LA would've been perfect for.
As for Eman, I'm not so steamed with SMB losing him per se, as I am with the way they lost him. Parang natutulog ang SMB management sa pancitan with the way they allowed Alaska to just pick him up na wala man lang kapalit. Sayang, sana na-trade na lang siya, para SMB could've gotten something in return.
Pano yan Jae? 1 year hiatus muna??? LOL
hahaha... ang BP... hahaha...
hahaha... ang BP... hahaha...
About Denok, it's not so much about his determination to take every possession to the hole in a bahala na fashion. what really gets my goat is his utter lack of an outside shot. i don't think he can hit the side of a barn even if his life depended on it. he's a bulky slower version of paul artadi. and he shoots freethrows at a rate that would make even paul artadi cringe.
I agree with the writer's opinions on SMB's bonehead trades. i'd be happy if Denok was traded for some underrated player like ares dimaunahan or paulo hubalde.
maybe siot should start playing again and take denok's place.
I agree with the writer's opinions on SMB's bonehead trades. i'd be happy if Denok was traded for some underrated player like ares dimaunahan or paulo hubalde.
maybe siot should start playing again and take denok's place.
What IF is the question in here
I mean, What If we did not trade LA, Its not guaranteed that he'll be playing like this (this good) donning the SMB Uniform. Could be better, Could be worse. Same goes with the Brandon Cablay and Mike Cortez trades.
Trading is always a Gamble in my opinion because once you've done a deal you'll never know what that player can bring to the other team and what this player can bring to our team. I guess its up to the Coaching Staff to maximize the talent a player had.
Just like Kobe, who would have thought that he would be like this? I mean, Charlotte wouldn't trade him if they only knew that Kobe would be one of the G.O.A.T. in the NBA.
Its the Future that is playing with us, only if we knew what the Future would be like then no one get the shorter end of a certain trade. and that makes basketball fun, Try to imagine every trade being equal and stuff, I guess I'll be Boring.
Its just that, YOU win SOME, you LOSE SOME!
I mean, What If we did not trade LA, Its not guaranteed that he'll be playing like this (this good) donning the SMB Uniform. Could be better, Could be worse. Same goes with the Brandon Cablay and Mike Cortez trades.
Trading is always a Gamble in my opinion because once you've done a deal you'll never know what that player can bring to the other team and what this player can bring to our team. I guess its up to the Coaching Staff to maximize the talent a player had.
Just like Kobe, who would have thought that he would be like this? I mean, Charlotte wouldn't trade him if they only knew that Kobe would be one of the G.O.A.T. in the NBA.
Its the Future that is playing with us, only if we knew what the Future would be like then no one get the shorter end of a certain trade. and that makes basketball fun, Try to imagine every trade being equal and stuff, I guess I'll be Boring.
Its just that, YOU win SOME, you LOSE SOME!
I've long wondered why SMB hasn't traded Danny Seigle even after he started picking up those injuries. Sure he won ROY and some Finals MVPs, but I notice that every time he gets injured and comes back at the middle of the season, the team's rotation and chemistry suddenly crumbles. This conference serves as a good example.
iba ang may pinagsamahan.
unlike Alaska when players become less productive and maxed out their potential and in turn become a commodity that is highly dispensable, you can't say that to smb, bgk and purefoods.
unlike Alaska when players become less productive and maxed out their potential and in turn become a commodity that is highly dispensable, you can't say that to smb, bgk and purefoods.
Co-sign!
I believe SMC are very loyal to its players. another thing is that, the two Dannys and Olsen would retire donning that SMB Uniform.
I believe SMC are very loyal to its players. another thing is that, the two Dannys and Olsen would retire donning that SMB Uniform.
yeah, right. how many teams get their old players back once they traded them? alaska is the only team, so far, multiple times, that does that. san miguel teams? no, they buy other players.
i guess you are an aa fan. lol
really? did they bring back their former mvps johnny a and duremdes? lol
really? did they bring back their former mvps johnny a and duremdes? lol
and i guess you're an smb fan. lol ka rin.
yeah, really? is that question meant to be answered or not, or does that question even merit an answer? sheesh, you're comparing two players out of many players alaska brought back. and you can't even answer the question which other team brings back their old players aside from alaska? lol ka rin.
yeah, really? is that question meant to be answered or not, or does that question even merit an answer? sheesh, you're comparing two players out of many players alaska brought back. and you can't even answer the question which other team brings back their old players aside from alaska? lol ka rin.
wrong! lol ka talaga
so you mean those MVPs that AA produced were useless? lol ka talaga
i know one, and it's jaemark's favorite team, Purefoods! lol ka talaga
and they gave second chances to has-beens, including the player that AA used to cheat BGK, and that's Bong Solomon.
lol ka talaga
mag-aral kang mabuti ng PBA history ng marami kang bala. history revisionist ka eh.
lol ka talaga
so you mean those MVPs that AA produced were useless? lol ka talaga
i know one, and it's jaemark's favorite team, Purefoods! lol ka talaga
and they gave second chances to has-beens, including the player that AA used to cheat BGK, and that's Bong Solomon.
lol ka talaga
mag-aral kang mabuti ng PBA history ng marami kang bala. history revisionist ka eh.
lol ka talaga
ikaw, mag-aral kang umintindi para tama ang mga sagot mo.
"alaska is the only team, SO FAR, MULTIPLE TIMES, that does that. "
naintindihan mo ba? paanong history revision iyan? saka isa pa, ang sinasabi mong purefoods team na kumuha ng players nilang muli ay hindi mako-consider na "old players." nasa peak pa sina artadi at pingris. lol ka talaga rin!
"so you mean those MVPs that AA produced were useless? lol ka talaga."
ah, are you saying that for me? since when na sinabi ko iyan? pakita mo nga. lol ka talaga rin?
engk! wrong ka rin! binalik ko lang sa iyo ang guess mo kaya lol ka talaga rin!
"and they gave second chances to has-beens, including the player that AA used to cheat BGK, and that's Bong Solomon."
like alaska doesn't give chance to has-beens. they are at the forefront in doing that. lol ka talaga rin!
ah, yeah, the infamous bong solomon "cheat." funny, that's one instance where anti-alaska fans keep on picking from the underworld to mask the present situation wherein san miguel teams are cheating other teams through their "trades" and the infamous salary cap.
again, buy common sense, if you can afford it. it works wonders.
"alaska is the only team, SO FAR, MULTIPLE TIMES, that does that. "
naintindihan mo ba? paanong history revision iyan? saka isa pa, ang sinasabi mong purefoods team na kumuha ng players nilang muli ay hindi mako-consider na "old players." nasa peak pa sina artadi at pingris. lol ka talaga rin!
"so you mean those MVPs that AA produced were useless? lol ka talaga."
ah, are you saying that for me? since when na sinabi ko iyan? pakita mo nga. lol ka talaga rin?
engk! wrong ka rin! binalik ko lang sa iyo ang guess mo kaya lol ka talaga rin!
"and they gave second chances to has-beens, including the player that AA used to cheat BGK, and that's Bong Solomon."
like alaska doesn't give chance to has-beens. they are at the forefront in doing that. lol ka talaga rin!
ah, yeah, the infamous bong solomon "cheat." funny, that's one instance where anti-alaska fans keep on picking from the underworld to mask the present situation wherein san miguel teams are cheating other teams through their "trades" and the infamous salary cap.
again, buy common sense, if you can afford it. it works wonders.
ha talaga? lol ka talaga
sige nga, sina tanuan (rip), sonny cabatu, dindo pumaren, and company?
and how about the has-beens like demigillio, harmon, abe king, frankie lim, balingit, realubit, arnold gamboa, etc.?
they were give another chance in the pba.
tell me, did your alaska reveal the medical condition of solomon to bgk at the time of the trade? lol ka talaga
cheating other teams? lol ka talaga
if you're going to blame smc teams, you should also blame the poorer teams for selling their players like slaves. lol ka talaga
and as if your team did not benefit from those trades.
and as if your team did not benefit from the fire house sale of the defunct shell team.
don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
lol ka talaga
sige nga, sina tanuan (rip), sonny cabatu, dindo pumaren, and company?
and how about the has-beens like demigillio, harmon, abe king, frankie lim, balingit, realubit, arnold gamboa, etc.?
they were give another chance in the pba.
tell me, did your alaska reveal the medical condition of solomon to bgk at the time of the trade? lol ka talaga
cheating other teams? lol ka talaga
if you're going to blame smc teams, you should also blame the poorer teams for selling their players like slaves. lol ka talaga
and as if your team did not benefit from those trades.
and as if your team did not benefit from the fire house sale of the defunct shell team.
don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
lol ka talaga
oh, so alaska fan talaga ako? porke binabato ang san miguel team corps, alaska na agad ang fan noon? sheesh. at may gana ka pang magsabi ng "ha talaga? lol ka talaga." lol ka talaga rin!
'yung mga sinabi mong players, those were either let go of their mother teams, contract ended, or traded. what i was referring to were those alaska players whom reached their peak with alaska, traded or let go by alaska in their peak or a little bit post peak (if there is such a word), and then reacquired by alaska after their obvious peak had expired. lol ka talaga rin!
how many of those players you mentioned undergone the same situation in a single team? you're twisting the original statement by giving an example that is not even in the context of my original statement. okay, blame me for not clarifying it further right away, but i'll blame you also for not asking what I meant before you react. lol ka talaga rin!
and by the way, jack tanuan(+) and sonny cabatu were given chances by alaska also. I thought you should know that. lol ka talaga rin!
"tell me, did your alaska reveal the medical condition of solomon to bgk at the time of the trade? lol ka talaga"
"and as if your team did not benefit from those trades."
"and as if your team did not benefit from the fire house sale of the defunct shell team."
my alaska? so from "i guess you are an aa fan. lol," it is now confirmed that I'm an alaska fan. by whom? by your ASSumption? maybe in your next post, I'm tiger woods. lol ka talaga rin!
"if you're going to blame smc teams, you should also blame the poorer teams for selling their players like slaves. lol ka talaga"
uh, excuses? passing the baton? let me blame them some other time, in my own volition. lol ka talaga rin!
"don't throw stones if you live in a glass house."
why shouldn't I? When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
'yung mga sinabi mong players, those were either let go of their mother teams, contract ended, or traded. what i was referring to were those alaska players whom reached their peak with alaska, traded or let go by alaska in their peak or a little bit post peak (if there is such a word), and then reacquired by alaska after their obvious peak had expired. lol ka talaga rin!
how many of those players you mentioned undergone the same situation in a single team? you're twisting the original statement by giving an example that is not even in the context of my original statement. okay, blame me for not clarifying it further right away, but i'll blame you also for not asking what I meant before you react. lol ka talaga rin!
and by the way, jack tanuan(+) and sonny cabatu were given chances by alaska also. I thought you should know that. lol ka talaga rin!
"tell me, did your alaska reveal the medical condition of solomon to bgk at the time of the trade? lol ka talaga"
"and as if your team did not benefit from those trades."
"and as if your team did not benefit from the fire house sale of the defunct shell team."
my alaska? so from "i guess you are an aa fan. lol," it is now confirmed that I'm an alaska fan. by whom? by your ASSumption? maybe in your next post, I'm tiger woods. lol ka talaga rin!
"if you're going to blame smc teams, you should also blame the poorer teams for selling their players like slaves. lol ka talaga"
uh, excuses? passing the baton? let me blame them some other time, in my own volition. lol ka talaga rin!
"don't throw stones if you live in a glass house."
why shouldn't I? When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
no matter how talented the entire roster is, you only can play 5 at a time..
and no matter how great the team is, if there's a godfather who decides what team of his should be in the finals, we, the fans, can only wish upon a star. lol
i'm not referring to any team or any godfather. lol
i'm not referring to any team or any godfather. lol


