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Tracked: Feb 12, 20:06
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Talk N Text coach Chot Reyes speaks about officiating
Ok, I don’t know what happened, but suddenly everyone’s emailing and commenting on Fire Quinito. Maybe soon Quinito will add his two cents too. Earlier tonight, coach Chot Reyes left a comment on my previous post addressing, among other things, PBA offici
Ok, I don’t know what happened, but suddenly everyone’s emailing and commenting on Fire Quinito. Maybe soon Quinito will add his two cents too. Earlier tonight, coach Chot Reyes left a comment on my previous post addressing, among other things, PBA offici
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Tracked: Feb 12, 21:45
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Problem with the TNT stance is that based on comments made by TNT side, they are not only questioning competence but blatant intentional collussion by the referees to make Ginebra win. What do you do about that? No workshop can cure that.
Peace.
Peace.
@Jude: Amen, bro!
@Jaemark:
First of all, I really like your blog. I think it really rocks!!! Irreverent, objective, witty, straight to the point. Just as sports reportage should be. Yes, even when it attacks the 'numerous dick moves' of Chot Reyes. :)
You're right, my coaching career has been marked by greater disappointments than achievements. In the game 4 incident, I know you (and a lot of sports fans) disagree with, as you so aptly call it, 'the dick move.'
But more than the numbers quoted by the 'patay and butiki' boys, I just wanted to inform you that we indeed followed established PBA protocol w regards officiating:
1. We wrote a letter to the PBA Commissioner dated January 25, 2010 even before the series started, already citing several calls/non-calls in our previous Ginebra games. He replied by admitting that the officials did err in four of the twelve instances, with the assurance that the same would not happen again;
2. After game two which we won, we sent a videotape through Assistant Coach Bong Ravena indicating questionable calls/non-calls by referee Aldaba, requesting that he be prevented from officiating our next games. Commish responded by, according to Mr. Ramil Cruz, insisting Aldaba be put into the pool of refs for games 3 and 4;
3. The morning after game 4, we presented to the Commish video showing how, if referee Aldaba had just done his job and called a foul on Eric Menk for throwing Mac Cardona to the floor, then the play involving the Ranidel de Ocampo Flagrant Foul should not even have happened. He agreed that a foul should have been called on Menk but denied our request for reconsideration and upheld the Flagrant Foul 2 call.
The above shows how we did follow the established protocol for officiating concerns. Unfortunately, it also shows that our concerns went unheeded – that is, until the walkout.
Perhaps due to the walkout, game 5 officiating showed that, indeed, the refs are capable of calling games fairly. We lost that game fair and square, and I credit Ginebra for hitting 14 of their 30 3-pt shots in the game that mattered most. They deserved to win.
In response to your comment on how far we will take this, our position is, as far as necessary for officiating in the PBA to improve, not only for TNT, but for all the teams. And scathing commentaries like yours can only help. After all, it's not easy compiling call logs and editing footage just to show the PBA technical group the day following a stressful game. But, we gotta do what we gotta do.
Again, I do not mind being criticized, questioned and contradicted, as long as the comments are made responsibly and respectfully.
All the best and keep on punchin!
@Jaemark:
First of all, I really like your blog. I think it really rocks!!! Irreverent, objective, witty, straight to the point. Just as sports reportage should be. Yes, even when it attacks the 'numerous dick moves' of Chot Reyes. :)
You're right, my coaching career has been marked by greater disappointments than achievements. In the game 4 incident, I know you (and a lot of sports fans) disagree with, as you so aptly call it, 'the dick move.'
But more than the numbers quoted by the 'patay and butiki' boys, I just wanted to inform you that we indeed followed established PBA protocol w regards officiating:
1. We wrote a letter to the PBA Commissioner dated January 25, 2010 even before the series started, already citing several calls/non-calls in our previous Ginebra games. He replied by admitting that the officials did err in four of the twelve instances, with the assurance that the same would not happen again;
2. After game two which we won, we sent a videotape through Assistant Coach Bong Ravena indicating questionable calls/non-calls by referee Aldaba, requesting that he be prevented from officiating our next games. Commish responded by, according to Mr. Ramil Cruz, insisting Aldaba be put into the pool of refs for games 3 and 4;
3. The morning after game 4, we presented to the Commish video showing how, if referee Aldaba had just done his job and called a foul on Eric Menk for throwing Mac Cardona to the floor, then the play involving the Ranidel de Ocampo Flagrant Foul should not even have happened. He agreed that a foul should have been called on Menk but denied our request for reconsideration and upheld the Flagrant Foul 2 call.
The above shows how we did follow the established protocol for officiating concerns. Unfortunately, it also shows that our concerns went unheeded – that is, until the walkout.
Perhaps due to the walkout, game 5 officiating showed that, indeed, the refs are capable of calling games fairly. We lost that game fair and square, and I credit Ginebra for hitting 14 of their 30 3-pt shots in the game that mattered most. They deserved to win.
In response to your comment on how far we will take this, our position is, as far as necessary for officiating in the PBA to improve, not only for TNT, but for all the teams. And scathing commentaries like yours can only help. After all, it's not easy compiling call logs and editing footage just to show the PBA technical group the day following a stressful game. But, we gotta do what we gotta do.
Again, I do not mind being criticized, questioned and contradicted, as long as the comments are made responsibly and respectfully.
All the best and keep on punchin!
thanks for the kind words, coach, and for being a good sport. i posted your comment on the front page of the blog, so that everyone could read. i think it really moves the discussion forward.
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Thanks for sharing us the other side of the story. I do agree with your concerns. I just hope that the PBA truly makes an effort to improve officiating. BTW, fans might be looking forward to future Ginebra-TNT games as a new rivalry has been created due to this incident.
I can't help but think back to a game between Ateneo High School and FEU-FERN where FEU nearly walked out of an overtime period at the Blue Eagle Gym due to a "bad call" by the referees. Coach Chot's (and Coach Ravena's) kid(s) was (were) on the other end of the experience at the time. Just love the drama, don't you?
sir edge! welcome to fire quinito.
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great hearing your side of the story coach! as much as I would disagree on what you did, I knew that was more than just an impulsive move. too bad it had to take drastic measures to get decent officiating. hope that doesn't happen in college ball.
wow. coach chot knows about this.
i cannot blame him for the said actions. i respect their decision.
it's just that the world knows about how ateneo gets the raw end of officiating all the time in the UAAP, yet they still play on. i only wish TNT just played on.
but, i welcome this kind of conversation.
i cannot blame him for the said actions. i respect their decision.
it's just that the world knows about how ateneo gets the raw end of officiating all the time in the UAAP, yet they still play on. i only wish TNT just played on.
but, i welcome this kind of conversation.
This is enough proof that this blog is acknowledged by sports personalities. Good work jaemark!!!!
Jaemark ,even the Quinito boys( Pinoykano, joey escalera) are starting to invade your blog LOL
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