Jamal Sampson speaks on Smart Gilas and the SBP
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Tracked: Feb 09, 20:02
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Jamal Sampson responds to comments
After reading some comments on the previous post, Jamal Sampson sent this along: For the [Smart Gilas] insider who responded to what I wrote, I would say I respect what he has to say. I know other players don’t get paid on time and still play, and I re
After reading some comments on the previous post, Jamal Sampson sent this along: For the [Smart Gilas] insider who responded to what I wrote, I would say I respect what he has to say. I know other players don’t get paid on time and still play, and I re
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Tracked: Feb 10, 10:26
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Rajko Toroman responds to Jamal Sampson
I got a curious email tonight from Smart Gilas coach Rajko Toroman, containing a long and impassioned message in response to the series of emails from Jamal Sampson that was posted on this blog. Let me just preface, with all due respect to Coach Toroman,
I got a curious email tonight from Smart Gilas coach Rajko Toroman, containing a long and impassioned message in response to the series of emails from Jamal Sampson that was posted on this blog. Let me just preface, with all due respect to Coach Toroman,
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Tracked: Feb 12, 00:25
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Ok, this takes the cake as my favorite email of the year so far
Since the influx of emails from personalities such as Jamal Sampson, Rajko Toroman, and a comment from Chot Reyes these past few days, people have been emailing me left and right about messages for these people, including a lot of suggestions for Coach To
Since the influx of emails from personalities such as Jamal Sampson, Rajko Toroman, and a comment from Chot Reyes these past few days, people have been emailing me left and right about messages for these people, including a lot of suggestions for Coach To
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Tracked: Feb 14, 01:10
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Jamal Sampson issue builds buzz; import answers Rajko Toroman
The ongoing Jamal Sampson saga has created some buzz even in the mainstream media: both the Manila Standard Today and GMANews.TV picked up the story last Thursday, while Patricia Hizon’s (always excellent) column for Standard Today last Friday carried the
The ongoing Jamal Sampson saga has created some buzz even in the mainstream media: both the Manila Standard Today and GMANews.TV picked up the story last Thursday, while Patricia Hizon’s (always excellent) column for Standard Today last Friday carried the
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Tracked: Feb 14, 15:03
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Another Smart Gilas prospect, Greg Stiemsma, signs with the Minnesota Timberwolves
Last Thursday, in the wake of Dwayne Jones signing with the Phoenix Suns, I wrote about some other D-League prospects that Smart Gilas might want to check out. Scott Schroeder of Ridiculous Upside singled out former University of Wisconsin center Greg Sti
Last Thursday, in the wake of Dwayne Jones signing with the Phoenix Suns, I wrote about some other D-League prospects that Smart Gilas might want to check out. Scott Schroeder of Ridiculous Upside singled out former University of Wisconsin center Greg Sti
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Jamal Sampson’s shadow still looms over Smart Gilas import search
Remember that whole issue with Jamal Sampson? Well, it turns out that he still hasn’t been released from his contract by Smart Gilas. Last week, he wrote in with some bad news: Well, this story gets better. The knee I hurt in Dubai, that the team was m
Remember that whole issue with Jamal Sampson? Well, it turns out that he still hasn’t been released from his contract by Smart Gilas. Last week, he wrote in with some bad news: Well, this story gets better. The knee I hurt in Dubai, that the team was m
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damn, these are pretty big revelations. nevertheless, this doesn't stop me from rooting for the team.
forgive my doubt, but i have a nagging feeling these accusations, albeit probably true, did not come from sampson himself, but from someone else within the gilas organization. i mean, with his short stint, that seems to me to be a lot inside info. either way, sadly, this shows a lot about the gilas management.
forgive my doubt, but i have a nagging feeling these accusations, albeit probably true, did not come from sampson himself, but from someone else within the gilas organization. i mean, with his short stint, that seems to me to be a lot inside info. either way, sadly, this shows a lot about the gilas management.
i don't think criticizing the sbp management (as i have, many times) precludes anyone from rooting for the team. neither does this. like any other pinoy basketball fan, i would love to hear a reply from the sbp, and if there's a problem, they ought to fix it.
anyway, the emails came directly from jamal. remember, he was with the team during the Middle East trip, that's a significant amount of time to spend with them.
anyway, the emails came directly from jamal. remember, he was with the team during the Middle East trip, that's a significant amount of time to spend with them.
this is really sad.
which brings me to think, could toroman's too rigid a system be contributing to sbp finding it hard to keep an import? giles, to me as well as to many, was really a perfect fit for the team; he seemed intent on moving here as well. but toroman couldn't just tolerate his off-court activities.
i'm interested to know how he's doing with al-riyadi right now, and how his coach is handling him.
which brings me to think, could toroman's too rigid a system be contributing to sbp finding it hard to keep an import? giles, to me as well as to many, was really a perfect fit for the team; he seemed intent on moving here as well. but toroman couldn't just tolerate his off-court activities.
i'm interested to know how he's doing with al-riyadi right now, and how his coach is handling him.
I don't think that Coach Toroman's system is the problem that is why they can't hire imports. It is just a matter of failing to find a great players. Great players is defined as somebody with both immense talent and good attitude. One cannot exists without the other. Aside from that, not all goals and objectives by the SBP are obtained at an instant. Some of them take time before they are reached.
Let me refresh your memory,you fired Giles
because he was coming stoned even at the game.
It really is sad!
because he was coming stoned even at the game.
It really is sad!
Its hard to tell if this is true. How are sure that this is indeed Sampson? And how did he think about sending you an email? Haha. But I wont be surprised if this is indeed true. haha. I actually liked him over Giles but Gilas did such a good job in making him look like the bad guy. haha. I hope we'll eventually find out whos telling the truth
it's him. he thought about sending me the email because i was writing awful stuff about him, hehe. he probably googles himself.
asus. pag may nag-email sa yo claiming to be one person, how would you go about verifying it? there are myriad ways... pero ikaw, paano mo gagawin yun? ganun din ang ginawa ko.
ako? Di ko nga alam paanu gawin kaya nagtataka ko kung paanu mo na confirm. Haha. Kala ko naman kasi nag cam-to-cam na kayo eh. mahirap narin kasi maniwala agad
Great email! i don't like to say bad stuff bout Jamal cause he's my friend. It still is disappointing that he didn't play but of course when it comes to all these salary stuff, that's behind the scenes and we dont know much. BUt what i do know is that, it's not just him who doesn't get paid on time. Sometimes the other guys also don't get their salaries on time, and believe me, they need that salary more than he does, but that doesn't really keep them from playing. It's really hard for these Americans though because their motivation is the money and not really the country like our local players.
i wouldn't be too hard on Sampson for not playing if he weren't getting paid. the guy could get injured and he could lose his living...
Interesting that it happens to other members of the team, too. that is a problem.
Interesting that it happens to other members of the team, too. that is a problem.
huwow! i thought i was reading through "GoodTimesManila here, LOL.
let's see what happens next. if true indeed, oh j, big time ka na talaga!
let's see what happens next. if true indeed, oh j, big time ka na talaga!
So confirmed na kaya hindi siya naglaro eh dahil hindi siya nabayaran.
Imbis na maawa ako sa kanya (sorry, medyo ang nakuha kong vibes eh nagpapaawa siya at gusto niyang palabasin na isa siyang biktima dito), mas lalo lang akong nainis. Di ko alam kung bakit. Nakakabwisit lang.
Pero sana maayos ng Gilas management kung ano mang problema ang meron. At sana mabayaran lalo na yung mga players na talagang kahit delayed ang sweldo, buong puso pa ring naglalaro para sa Gilas.
Imbis na maawa ako sa kanya (sorry, medyo ang nakuha kong vibes eh nagpapaawa siya at gusto niyang palabasin na isa siyang biktima dito), mas lalo lang akong nainis. Di ko alam kung bakit. Nakakabwisit lang.
Pero sana maayos ng Gilas management kung ano mang problema ang meron. At sana mabayaran lalo na yung mga players na talagang kahit delayed ang sweldo, buong puso pa ring naglalaro para sa Gilas.
well, fair naman na kung hindi sya bayaran, hindi rin sya maglalaro. trabaho nya yun, nasa kontrata nya. anong problema?
ang issue naman nya, i-release na sya sa kontrata nya, which apparently hindi pa rin ginagawa ng SBP.
curious din ako kung ano yung isasagot ng SBP dito.
ang issue naman nya, i-release na sya sa kontrata nya, which apparently hindi pa rin ginagawa ng SBP.
curious din ako kung ano yung isasagot ng SBP dito.
Punto ko lang sana sinabi na niya noon na kaya hindi siya mag-lalaro ay dahil hindi pa siya binabayaran. Hindi yung gumagawa siya ng dahilan na kesyo masakit ang tuhod niya at kung ano pang sakit sa katawan ang maisip niya. Diretsahan na lang sana, "no pay, no play", ika nga. Para hindi na nag-expect yung fans.
Napanood ko kasi ng live yung tournament, nasa likod lang kami ng bench nun. Daming palusot nitong si Sampson kada sasabihan siya na pumasok sa loob ng court. Eh kung umpisa pa lang prinanka na niya ang Management, eh di sana di na siya isinama sa Qatar at Dubai. Sayang lang yung pera na ginastos sa airfare niya.
Tulad mo, curious din ako sa kahahantungan nito. Bayaran na sana nila yung mga players, lalo na yung may mga pamilyang sinusuportahan. Pwede silang idemanda nito.
Napanood ko kasi ng live yung tournament, nasa likod lang kami ng bench nun. Daming palusot nitong si Sampson kada sasabihan siya na pumasok sa loob ng court. Eh kung umpisa pa lang prinanka na niya ang Management, eh di sana di na siya isinama sa Qatar at Dubai. Sayang lang yung pera na ginastos sa airfare niya.
Tulad mo, curious din ako sa kahahantungan nito. Bayaran na sana nila yung mga players, lalo na yung may mga pamilyang sinusuportahan. Pwede silang idemanda nito.
kung basahin mo ung email nya, sabi nya, bago pa ang dubai trip, nanghingi na sya ng release dahil hindi sya nababayaran. ayaw sya i-release ng gilas.
Kaya nga, sana hindi na lang siya sumama as a form of protest. He could have opted not to join the trip to send a stronger message to the management. When he agreed to join them--I'm assuming he agreed, because he DID board that plane en route to Qatar--he's acknowledging the fact that the he is STILL a part of the team, though he already filed for an appeal to be released.
Kung ang argument niya ay ayaw siyang pakawalan, may free will naman siya para hindi na sumama. Para talagang maramdaman ng management na naiinis siya sa pang-iipit nila ng sweldo niya.
I understand your points, you've argued his case in a very convincing manner, yet I'm still having a hard time sympathizing with this guy.
Off topic: Nagiging paborito ko na tong blog mo. I really like your writing style. Sana ay kada may mga scoop na ganito eh lagi mong ibabahagi sa amin. Alam mo naman mga Pilipino, likas na chismoso. :p
Kung ang argument niya ay ayaw siyang pakawalan, may free will naman siya para hindi na sumama. Para talagang maramdaman ng management na naiinis siya sa pang-iipit nila ng sweldo niya.
I understand your points, you've argued his case in a very convincing manner, yet I'm still having a hard time sympathizing with this guy.
Off topic: Nagiging paborito ko na tong blog mo. I really like your writing style. Sana ay kada may mga scoop na ganito eh lagi mong ibabahagi sa amin. Alam mo naman mga Pilipino, likas na chismoso. :p
salamat!
You did not answer his main question. How did you confirmed that it was jamal indeed who write that e-mail? or if that was his e-mail indeed?
FYI, e-mails, just like fascimile, are not admissable in a court of law unless you have actual proof that they received by/from them or by/from their official representation.
hahaha... ang BP... hahaha...
FYI, e-mails, just like fascimile, are not admissable in a court of law unless you have actual proof that they received by/from them or by/from their official representation.
hahaha... ang BP... hahaha...
With the PLDT group's various acquisitions in the past months and MVP's sponsorships to other sports, it is not surprising for Gilas to have a tight budget. I don't know if it's anything serious but the team is scheduled to play a number of international games this year. For the players, having their salaries delayed for a couple of months is like giving out a loan to the company. The management should take better care of their cash flow.
no, there's absolutely no excuse for Smart Gilas players not to receive their salaries on time. zero. zilch. nada.
it's an embarrassment to Smart as a corporation that this happens, and if it's true, they need to make the situation right.
it's an embarrassment to Smart as a corporation that this happens, and if it's true, they need to make the situation right.
can you at least publish in full the said email of sampson? and not in the structure you presented them. and if he was reacting to your blog, why email you when he can just write a comment. that way he can clear his name for all to see. that would be better i think for him. say, what if you decided not to post his email? does he feel like you're going to appreciate him better if he emailed you directly instead?
hmmm.... so now youre like email buddies huh?
hmmm.... so now youre like email buddies huh?
actually, those are pretty much the salient points of his emails. all i did was to clean them up and present them in a more readable way for readers of my blog.
i don't get what your problem is regarding him emailing me directly instead of posting a comment. a lot of people send me email for feedback instead of posting comments.
i don't get what your problem is regarding him emailing me directly instead of posting a comment. a lot of people send me email for feedback instead of posting comments.
It's also just as easy to pretend you're someone you aren't -- such as a certain handsome kapre -- on the comments page as it is to create a fake email account. Personally, I would trust an email to be coming from a legit source over an online comment. Of course, I would seek proof from the emailer, as I suspect Jaemark did, before publishing anything.
If this indeed is true, then I'm disappointed with how Smart-Gilas is being managed. Maybe this is why they're having problems acquiring those other college players. I agree that a contract is a contract. You should be compensated for the work that you do. What happens if you get injured?
I hope the Gilas management responds to Sampson's statements. I'm interested in what they have to say.
I hope the Gilas management responds to Sampson's statements. I'm interested in what they have to say.
“I was told by numerous sources that on a team retreat Noli said to the team, he started this program only to get back at the PBA for what they did to him. That right there says enough. This whole thing wasn’t even started for the right reasons.”
Kasalanan na naman ni Noli...LOL
Seriously, this is a serious accusation if not very disturbing message. Based on Noli's tweet in the past, may paghuhugutan. Hopefully, politics will be taken out of the picture in order to regain Asian basketball supremacy.
Kasalanan na naman ni Noli...LOL
Seriously, this is a serious accusation if not very disturbing message. Based on Noli's tweet in the past, may paghuhugutan. Hopefully, politics will be taken out of the picture in order to regain Asian basketball supremacy.
You are right. Politics has no place in the SBP. If they plan to reach their ambitious goal of reachign their goal of getting a slot in the 2012 London Olympics, unity among SBP officials has to be set in place and politics has to be set aside for it a fan once said," Politics and sports don't mix"!!!
The SBP is still in its infancy stage that is why it there is a lot to be desired of from this organization. I expect improvements to happen in the years to come. Besides, I do believe that the organization is sincere in restoring basketball supremacy in Asia and uniting all the basketball organizations in the Philippines through its hardwork and sincerity. Expect more from the SBP in the years to come.
I hope this issue won't be used by BAP (headed by Pichay and my God, someone remove Graham Lim please) to claim that SBP is doing a bad job. Baka magsumbong na naman sa FIBA yan. They almost sabotaged the 2007 RP-SMC team back then by reporting to FIBA about the presence of Fil-Ams in the line-up (that didn't make the news but this issue was really a distraction).
This Jamal issue aside, I think SBP is doing a far greater job than the BAP with the formation of national teams and grassroots development (headed by Compton).
Smart Gilas is just one side of SBP's functions. I think we shouldn't generalize SBP as a whole by just this Jamal fiasco. But just like any other curious Filipino, I'd like to hear what SBP has to say and correct whatever mistake they committed.
This Jamal issue aside, I think SBP is doing a far greater job than the BAP with the formation of national teams and grassroots development (headed by Compton).
Smart Gilas is just one side of SBP's functions. I think we shouldn't generalize SBP as a whole by just this Jamal fiasco. But just like any other curious Filipino, I'd like to hear what SBP has to say and correct whatever mistake they committed.
that's true, sbp isn't just smart gilas. there are other programs in the organization, such as eric altamirano's youth program. i've praised the effort of that group effusively in this blog.
the problem here is that, for the past year, the people managing the smart gilas program has also been the people at the top of the sbp leadership. if there are isssues here, they ought to be accountable. if they're not accountable, they're no different from the terrible bap leadership.
the problem here is that, for the past year, the people managing the smart gilas program has also been the people at the top of the sbp leadership. if there are isssues here, they ought to be accountable. if they're not accountable, they're no different from the terrible bap leadership.
ahem..ang angas na man ni jamal para mgraklamo coz being paid on time, eh ilang minutes ba cya nglaro para sa gilas on the first month nya?wla din man cya nacontribute.akala mo kung cno cya to speak like that against the organization..ilang months na ba cya sa gilas, to speak things like that...wala, lampa cya.
fair enough. but he's asking for his release too, and according to him, the team wouldn't do it.
Jamal is dissatisfied with the conditions as an RP Smart Gilas player. The SBP just has to respect his decision and let him go. We can't force him to play for the national team if he doesn't want to.
Ganoon talaga siguro kapag nakapaglaro na sa NBA at naging kakampi sila Carmelo Anthony and Kobe Bryant. LOL
The SBP should learn from this experience when they hire imports in the future.
My heart goes for sampson, we really dont know much about the sallary thing cause thats confidential and complicated.. but.. w/ this revelations.. thats big man..
"On SBP executive director Noli Eala’s motivation:
“I was told by numerous sources that on a team retreat Noli said to the team, he started this program only to get back at the PBA for what they did to him. That right there says enough. This whole thing wasn’t even started for the right reasons.”
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Noli did this to get even with the PBA? Funny cuz It had the opposite effect. Tuwang tuwa ang PBA sa SBP dahil hindi na sila obligated na tumulong sa pag-assemble ng RP team. it's MVP/Eala's problem now.
“I was told by numerous sources that on a team retreat Noli said to the team, he started this program only to get back at the PBA for what they did to him. That right there says enough. This whole thing wasn’t even started for the right reasons.”
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Noli did this to get even with the PBA? Funny cuz It had the opposite effect. Tuwang tuwa ang PBA sa SBP dahil hindi na sila obligated na tumulong sa pag-assemble ng RP team. it's MVP/Eala's problem now.
I think both sides have their faults to show for. If Jamal says he's injured then that should be verified so we'll know officially if he's injured and can't play competitive ball. If what he's saying about his pay not being given on time and this info verified by other sources and other players not getting paid on time as well then that should be looked into. If there are team officials, assistant coaches who shouldn't be there then they should be taken out. Smart Gilas has to shape up on all fronts so we can have a competitive National Men's Basketball Team. Otherwise, we can just forget it.
ano naman ang mali sa mga sinabi ni jamal, nakakasuka ang mga revelations nya, at totoo naman na patapon ang basketball program ng pilipinas, ngayon aasa pa kayo na may mararating ang talunang smart gilas?
sa mga hindi nakakaintindi ng kontrata, wag na kayong umepal, sasabihin nyo pang si jamal ang mali, kung ang mga kasamang local player ng smart gilas ok lang tuloy ang laro may bayad o wala, ibahin nyo si jamal, import sya, maglalaro sya ayon sa pinagkasunduan, kung magpapakabayaning tanga ang local gilas players, kahit no pay, play pa rin, kasalanan na nila yun, magiging practice team lang naman ang gilas, tama lang na humingi na i-release na sya, kung ma-injure yan masasagot bsa nila playing career nya, tapos wala pang bayad, ano yan gaguhan?
nakakasuka ang program na yan, naiinis kayo kasi lumalabas ang totoo na bulok ang basketball program ng pinas, patapon, talunan, at walang kahihiyan. pweh!!!!
sa mga hindi nakakaintindi ng kontrata, wag na kayong umepal, sasabihin nyo pang si jamal ang mali, kung ang mga kasamang local player ng smart gilas ok lang tuloy ang laro may bayad o wala, ibahin nyo si jamal, import sya, maglalaro sya ayon sa pinagkasunduan, kung magpapakabayaning tanga ang local gilas players, kahit no pay, play pa rin, kasalanan na nila yun, magiging practice team lang naman ang gilas, tama lang na humingi na i-release na sya, kung ma-injure yan masasagot bsa nila playing career nya, tapos wala pang bayad, ano yan gaguhan?
nakakasuka ang program na yan, naiinis kayo kasi lumalabas ang totoo na bulok ang basketball program ng pinas, patapon, talunan, at walang kahihiyan. pweh!!!!


