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Pacquiao, Cotto, and the savage nature of boxing

Posted by Jaemark Tordecilla on November 16, 2009 at 22:39 | Comments (4)
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Going back to my running theme of how awesome it would be if great Filipino writers started writing more about sports, GMANews.tv editor-in-chief Howie Severino (a friend of this blog, incidentally) penned a thought-provoking piece about violence in boxing, in the context of Manny Pacquiao’s bloody victory over Miguel Cotto, and Z Gorres’ brain injury. Howie points out that while adulation for Pacquiao in the country after his win is universal, there still remains rightful ambivalence about the brutal nature of the sport.

While I mostly agree with most of the points that Howie raised, I would offer the following addenda: first, Cotto is known to be a bleeder, so his bloodied face might have looked worse than it really was; and second, Cotto is a world-class fighter who knows how to protect himself in the ring, and if he is unable to do so, then his corner should do it for him. Cotto’s corner, unfortunately, did not do enough on the second point, leaving their fighter in a terribly precarious situation in the latter rounds against Pacquiao. Cotto’s father already wanted the fight to stop, but the welterweight champion wanted to keep going.

I do wonder though if the real danger for boxers is that more often than not, no one saves them from themselves. Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, readily admits that his condition was brought about by the fact that he had one too many fights, carrying on when he clearly should’ve stopped.

Even perhaps the greatest boxer of all time, Muhammad Ali, was not spared of the fate. Recently, an ESPN documentary was broadcast in the United States detailing Ali’s final fight against then up-and-coming champion Larry Holmes. Ali at the time was way past his prime, but he still believed that he had what it takes to beat Holmes. The result was a one-sided beatdown so brutal that people who were there are still traumatized by the experience. Ali’s doctors, meanwhile, still argue that Ali should never have been allowed to step into the ring. Today Ali, like Roach, suffers from the debilitating effects of Parkinson’s disease.

Boxers generally boast of a toughness not found in any other athlete in the world; indeed, it takes a special kind of bravado to keep going while you’re getting hit in the face. Unfortunately, for a lot of boxers, the bravado remains long after the punching power, the foot speed, and the reflexes have abandoned them. But they look in the mirror and they think they still have what it takes.

I’d love to see Pacquiao fight Mayweather, I really do. But I wouldn’t mind either if he retired right now. At the very least, he’d be able to do something a lot of other boxers have not had the strength to do: walk away with everything intact.
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#1 Byron Villegas on 2009-11-16 23:20 (Reply)
OK, fine with me (not that it matters).. a back-to-back, or even a trilogy with Floyd Mayweather, and then retire... anyway, Manny's condition now, is heaven & earth different from Ali's condition when he fought Holmes..
#2 Rafe on 2009-11-17 02:11 (Reply)
You know, I'm on Larry Merchant's side with the whole stopping the fight issue. I don't mind Kenny Bayless stepping in because the odds must have been a zillion-to-one at that point that Cotto would score a miraculous knockout blow, but Cotto wasn't in trouble. He wasn't out on his feet. He was defending himself and he was usually landing a couple pointless jabs at the beginning the rounds before running. He took one combination somewhere in the rounds 6-9 area that had him on the edge, but he survived it. He lost the fight badly, but he continued defending himself until the end and wanted to keep fighting. If you look at those Gatti-Ward fights or Corrales-Castillo, both fighters were in much worse shape than Cotto was at any point in the fight. Now, the fact that Cotto-Pacquiao wasn't at all close at that point is an important factor, but people have been writing about this like Cotto was being hit with a sledgehammer, and while I'm as impressed with the pambansang kamao as anyone, it didn't look that grave to me.

Another reason why boxers can't hang up the gloves that shouldn't be forgotten is money. Like other pro athletes, boxers lose their riches fast. Part of it is because of poor spending, and part of it is because boxing might be the world's most crooked major sport, and by the time all the promoters and handlers get their fees, the fighter's cut can be much smaller than it ought to be. Also, since many fighters allow their handlers to manage their finances, who knows what gets skimmed. It's not just glory that drives old, washed up greats into the ring, it's money. They need a payday. Since Pacquiao's at the top of the field, he's got more money than he knows what to do with, so it doesn't make much difference. But if he stops fighting, the faucet is turned off, and if he's still losing money at casinos and cockfights and billiard halls and playing pusoy dos at Chavit's lodge, then what?

Well, I think Bill Simmons would call me the turd in the punch bowl. Let's go back to thinking about the performance Pacquiao put on. It was amazing.
#3 ck on 2009-11-17 15:28 (Reply)
In one interview, Pacquiao said, "Hindi naman ako bobo." Though he splurges a lot (e.g. his mother's 6 million peso jewelry), he knows were to place his money. Unconfirmed reports say that the monthly interest from his money in the bank is about 15-20 millions pesos. He could spend all that in a month and still keep his principal.
#4 Jay P Atienza on 2009-11-17 20:53 (Reply)
i agree with your post right there, in many ways, boxing is still a brutal sport, but like many other sports it evolves through time. truly science has come to play a very important part in today's sporting scene. from training to the fight itself everything has to be done with method, efficiency and utmost care for the athlete. of course in boxing there are a lot of bleeders, and cutmans will do their best to reduce (for at least that moment) the amount of damage their fighter has sustained. i can't say that today's boxing not that brutal, but clearly, with the evolution of the sport, rules, sanctions and regulations, we must still appreciate that it is still a sport, and as cheesy as it gets it is "the sweet science". maybe those who say that boxing is still a brutal bloodsport still can't get this image in their minds, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4. and i do hope that we won't see that again.

thank you sir.

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